bennysflyers16
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He helps dogs, that’s his only redeeming quality.
He will quit long before he is fired , he will bail on the team.
He will quit long before he is fired , he will bail on the team.
Very similar as far as stupidity goes, but at least he wasn’t so aggressively loud and egotistical.I almost miss Hakstol
He already quit last year when he refused to coach and sat upstairs.He helps dogs, that’s his only redeeming quality.
He will quit long before he is fired , he will bail on the team.
I almost miss Hakstol
They're both intensely stupidVery similar as far as stupidity goes, but at least he wasn’t so aggressively loud and egotistical.
He already quit last year when he refused to coach and sat upstairs.
He’s just collecting paychecks.
You might want to check with Gostisbehere on thatVery similar as far as stupidity goes, but at least he wasn’t so aggressively loud and egotistical.
At least Hak didn’t call him a toilet seatYou might want to check with Gostisbehere on that
Hakstol is absolutely way more forward thinking than Tortorella.
Hakstol also falls into the expansive category of "coaches who open up offense more when they aren't with the Flyers." It's almost like the exact same management group pushing the exact same values for many many years has been pushing coaches to meet particular standards.
#darkesttimelineI think Tortorella is serious when he talks about not understanding offense (obviously) and not trying to stifle players with offensive systems. Hakstol's issue with the Flyers was trying to scheme offense to death with his sterile North Dakota ideas. Seattle last year was 11th in FF/60 and 21st in xGF/60 at 5v5. He is who he is. Although the short goatee era showed promise, he's always been a dead eyed, button-upped asshole afraid of risk and youth. I can't pine for him. I also think both theses assholes clear the AV bar. What a miserable decade.
The issue is Tortorella delegates offensive responsibilities to hand appointed morons like Rocky Thompson. No one can ever challenge Therrien for Xs and Os incompetence on the PP, given the elite talent he had, but Rocky is doing his best. Even in Columbus' 3 year Tortorella peak, they were 6th in 5v5 offense (GF/60 and xGF/60), while being 3rd worst on the PP. That's the positive and negative of being hands off. I don't think he's creatively restrictive (usage is another story), but PPs are inherently more system oriented. Nothing says the Flyers will improve there. David Cronenberg couldn't dream up grotesqueness like this. Tortorella has no answers because he admits to not understanding offense.
But Tortorella being part of the Triumvirate changes the calculus too. This guy having personnel input will be a disaster. First step is trading Frost in the upcoming months. And when they inevitably don't improve, he'll burn things down.
Then the retool has already failed. And the next several years are a waste of time while we hope everyone is firedI think Torts will be no problem with personnel, b/c he's on the same page with Briere.
Can't wait until Torts tanks Frost's trade value. Fun times.
Allison's value was solely off a cameo at the end of the season when the Flyers were playing out the string under AV. Got hurt the next season, then played 60g last year, mostly on the third line with Hayes as his center, and showed little. That's what deep sixed his value, not performing.
Mediocre players exposed as being mediocre?Another example of the falsehoods you have to create to defend nonstop failure instead of questioning why these things always happen over and over.
2nd rd? Paired with a 1st for a top 10? Did you think he was going to be like Simmonds minus the leadership and fighting?Already has. They similarly destroyed Allison, who once had value.
Well they could have had Stevens or Lappy so it could have been worse.How the hell did we manage to get some of the dumbest and least likable NHL coaches back-to-back-to-back?
Not "likable but dumb" or a "jerk who knows his stuff". Three miserable assholes who also don't know the first thing about hockey.
you say that like Lappy isnt next in line...Well they could have had Stevens or Lappy so it could have been worse.
How the hell did we manage to get some of the dumbest and least likable NHL coaches back-to-back-to-back?
Not "likable but dumb" or a "jerk who knows his stuff". Three miserable assholes who also don't know the first thing about hockey.