Blow this team up already!

[BraveCanadian]

I blame Obama

Obama is old school, we blame Trudeau for everything now.

Great insight Elliot. lol

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Bring back Dion Phaneuf as part of the re-tool.

 

[notbias]

"If they agree to it"

Everyone has a NMC.

Also, are we trusting Treliving to move a core piece? Little nervous but hopefully he learned.

 

[613Leafer]

I was looking at the upcoming UFA list for goaltenders and it is very slim pickings. If we hope to find a reliable tandem goaltender to play with Woll, I think we need to go the trade route.

It's awful. Stolarz I guess would be the top choice, though would be a massive roll of the dice. He's had good stats (including on a bad Anaheim team), but only has 108 NHL games under his belt.

Via trade, who would even be available to get a legit goalie? Maybe Markstrom, but tough trade to swing, same for Saros. Ulmark is probably available, but Boston is unlikely to trade with us.

Unfortunately, we may just be looking at a stopgap - bring Samsonov back on a short deal or some other similarly inconsistent goalie, and hope that Woll develops into an adequate starter within a year or two.

 

[Strangle]

Too much talk about NMC

If the Leafs want to move on from Marner, he will give them a list of teams he will accept a trade to.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

Pelley is likely talking to top sports people around the globe .
Due dillegence will be required,pick the brains of experts
Knee jerk reactions ,sometimes don't help
But i do believe he will be well informed by may 15 at the latest

I guarantee he has already been doing that. It’s not like a search starts this week. I’m sure he has had exploratory conversations with people at all levels.

 

[A1LeafNation]

I guarantee he has already been doing that. It’s not like a search starts this week. I’m sure he has had exploratory conversations with people at all levels.

I dont think you get past the interview stage without plans A B and C.

He's probably had an idea of what he wanted to do for the past year.

 

[ACC1224]

Too much talk about NMC

If the Leafs want to move on from Marner, he will give them a list of teams he will accept a trade to.

There is no reason at all to believe that is the case.

 

[A1LeafNation]

There is no reason at all to believe that is the case.

No reason....so no players with NMCs have ever been traded before?

 

[ACC1224]

No reason....so no players with NMCs have ever been traded before?

None in Marners situation that I can think of.

 

[seventieslord]

None in Marners situation that I can think of.

But you can think of plenty that refused to be traded when their teams wanted to move them?

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

But you can think of plenty that refused to be traded when their teams wanted to move them?

I can see Tavares not wanting to move. He's late into his career and stability is pretty important to a married man with 3 children. Nobody is offering JT term on his next deal.

Mitch will be seeking an 8 year deal, so it's much different. Marner is married, yes but has a very long NHL career ahead of him. He'd be likely to waive if he knew we wouldn't offer him an extension and he could only get 7 years in UFA.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

There is no reason at all to believe that is the case.

You think if management tells him to his face we no longer want you here and you will not be resigned and openly tell that to the media that he will say no problem and refuse a trade and play out his contract?

 

[Fogelhund]

I can see Tavares not wanting to move. He's late into his career and stability is pretty important to a married man with 3 children. Nobody is offering JT term on his next deal.

Mitch will be seeking an 8 year deal, so it's much different. Marner is married, yes but has a very long NHL career ahead of him. He'd be likely to waive if he knew we wouldn't offer him an extension and he could only get 7 years in UFA.

This!

Tavares isn't going anywhere, can be useful in mentoring some younger players, and will likely sign for cheap to stay here.

 

[ACC1224]

You think if management tells him to his face we no longer want you here and you will not be resigned and openly tell that to the media that he will say no problem and refuse a trade and play out his contract?

They may have a conversation but I don't believe that will lead him to waiving.
I also don't believe they will take any of the childish routes that people are suggesting to force him out.

We don't even know that they are unhappy with him and wish to move him.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Because the Leafs proved what a solid strategy that is when they traded for Kessel.

They only traded a couple of picks for Kessel - nothing significant.

 

[Dale Gribble]

Shoresy' got it right... There is a difference between wanting to win and hating to lose.

 

[Dale Gribble]

Too much talk about NMC

If the Leafs want to move on from Marner, he will give them a list of teams he will accept a trade to.

Out of all the players on the team with a NMC's Marner and Tavares I think would be the ones unwilling to waive them.

Could be wrong of course.

 

[hotpaws]

I can see Tavares not wanting to move. He's late into his career and stability is pretty important to a married man with 3 children. Nobody is offering JT term on his next deal.

Mitch will be seeking an 8 year deal, so it's much different. Marner is married, yes but has a very long NHL career ahead of him. He'd be likely to waive if he knew we wouldn't offer him an extension and he could only get 7 years in UFA.

JT probably doesn't want to move but if the team informed him they aren't going to offer him an extension his choice would be to retire or move to a new team , doubt he wants to retire so most people would waive once it's known the team doesn't want you back .

 

[horner]

"If they agree to it"

Everyone has a NMC.

Also, are we trusting Treliving to move a core piece? Little nervous but hopefully he learned.

Tyler Toffoli is looking great for Calgary

 

[ACC1224]

JT probably doesn't want to move but if the team informed him they aren't going to offer him an extension his choice would be to retire or move to a new team , doubt he wants to retire so most people would waive once it's known the team doesn't want you back .

… or play out the year hoping to change their mind. Worse case you choose your own destination as a UFA.

 

[horner]

Out of all the players on the team with a NMC's Marner and Tavares I think would be the ones unwilling to waive them.

Could be wrong of course.

The noice is going to get hot this summer .
They may not want yo deal with it.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

They may have a conversation but I don't believe that will lead him to waiving.
I also don't believe they will take any of the childish routes that people are suggesting to force him out.

We don't even know that they are unhappy with him and wish to move him.

Basically it would be doing the team version of what Matthew Tkachuk did to the flames. Not asking him to waive but making it clear to him and media they are not resigning.

Anyway all moot as you say maybe they decide to keep him.

 

[Strangle]

One reason a team like Boston or a team like Vegas has been able to be so successful for so long is by having the balls to move on from good or even great players

Toronto hasn’t had that kind of courage. Yet

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

… or play out the year hoping to change their mind. Worse case you choose your own destination as a UFA.

If it leaks out that he was using his NMC to stay after this fiasco of a series (unless something drastic changes)....I wouldn't want to be him walking around this city. He cares about his image...so much so..that when Jeff O'Neill went on a rant about his asking price during his holdout...he signed shortly afterwards and then had to record himself saying what this city means to him blah blah.

If he forced the team to keep him and then bolted as a UFA....man...I really wouldn't plan on living in this city after I retired...