Prospect Info: 95th Overall Jordan Spence Defence

[Fishhead]

The Kings will be in the same win-now position next summer that they are right now. Roy and Arvidsson aren't going anywhere, even and especially if it's to the detriment of guys like Spence, Clarke, Kaliyev, Laf next year.

Except they won't be able to afford either of them. Roy is going to get quite a raise, and it's RV's UFA contract.

 

[johnjm22]

Updated Spence card just dropped. f*** that's good for a 22yo Dman.

 

[YAYSAY]

I feel like a lot of you guys are forgetting that when teams are in a good "win now position" they often have younger players playing well with cheap contracts. If Spence is playing well enough on a cheap contract then that makes Roy more expendable

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I feel like a lot of you guys are forgetting that when teams are in a good "win now position" they often have younger players playing well with cheap contracts. If Spence is playing well enough on a cheap contract then that makes Roy more expendable

Contending teams rarely cycle those guys out in-season, though. They'd rather run out the term than simply recoup an asset. I think Roy and Arvy are both in this boat. Dudes are gonna get paid and we can't afford them. But on the meantime they're on sweetheart deals and better than any players that can replace them

 

[Schrute farms]

100 percent you do not re-sign roy

Totally correct...but that's exactly the kind of thing Blake would (& likely will) do. Same with Arvy.

 

[King'sPawn]

I feel like a lot of you guys are forgetting that when teams are in a good "win now position" they often have younger players playing well with cheap contracts. If Spence is playing well enough on a cheap contract then that makes Roy more expendable

I agree. But it wouldn't be expected to happen before the playoffs end. That's when vets are leaned on the most

 

[bland]

I feel like a lot of you guys are forgetting that when teams are in a good "win now position" they often have younger players playing well with cheap contracts. If Spence is playing well enough on a cheap contract then that makes Roy more expendable

Neither Spence or Clarke will be killing penalties, and neither will be able to thrive against heavy physicality. The right thing to do is to go with the kids and plan a big run a year or two down the road when all the young talent is acclimated and hopefully thriving.

But that isn't happening here. The real issue is Doughty. He won't be able to play big minutes forever, so you want the kids to take over those key offensive spots. However, if you go with Spence and Clarke next year, your matchups are screwed if you are looking for immediate results. Roy does so many things well that losing him in those situations and replacing him with smaller, inexperienced offensive-leaning kids will be a severe blow. Also, Doughty will not accept being taken off of the PP, so what's the point of carrying two similar players and not using one to their premier strength while being significantly weaker in other areas?

Its not an easy decision to make.

 

[David Lunch]

Neither Spence or Clarke will be killing penalties, and neither will be able to thrive against heavy physicality. The right thing to do is to go with the kids and plan a big run a year or two down the road when all the young talent is acclimated and hopefully thriving.

But that isn't happening here. The real issue is Doughty. He won't be able to play big minutes forever, so you want the kids to take over those key offensive spots. However, if you go with Spence and Clarke next year, your matchups are screwed if you are looking for immediate results. Roy does so many things well that losing him in those situations and replacing him with smaller, inexperienced offensive-leaning kids will be a severe blow. Also, Doughty will not accept being taken off of the PP, so what's the point of carrying two similar players and not using one to their premier strength while being significantly weaker in other areas?

Its not an easy decision to make.

I feel like Spence could become a PK2 defender but he’ll need to get a lot of reps this season. With the top 4 already being big, naturally defensive minded players, I think it’s the only way Spence will gets a look is if there’s an injury.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I mean if TM is willing to play Durzi on the wrong side on the PK I dont know why Spence wouldn't get a look

but I definitely think it would take some injuries etc

I like that he's being played to his strengths so far thugh, that's a nice change in deployment strategy this year.

 

[Remparts666]

Man he looked good yesterday ! Has he been playing like that all year ? Wishing for him and Clarke to drive the PP as soon as next year

 

[dman3474]

Did Spence PK in the AHL?

 

[regulate]

Did Spence PK in the AHL?

Yes, but I wouldn't call it a strength for him.

 

[TJHKY]

 

[YP44]

it's nice when you have been talking up a player so much and he does not bust out. Love watching Spence

 

[rapots]

As I see him, he is better and younger version of Durzi.

 

[bmr]

Neither Spence or Clarke will be killing penalties, and neither will be able to thrive against heavy physicality. The right thing to do is to go with the kids and plan a big run a year or two down the road when all the young talent is acclimated and hopefully thriving.

But that isn't happening here. The real issue is Doughty. He won't be able to play big minutes forever, so you want the kids to take over those key offensive spots. However, if you go with Spence and Clarke next year, your matchups are screwed if you are looking for immediate results. Roy does so many things well that losing him in those situations and replacing him with smaller, inexperienced offensive-leaning kids will be a severe blow. Also, Doughty will not accept being taken off of the PP, so what's the point of carrying two similar players and not using one to their premier strength while being significantly weaker in other areas?

Its not an easy decision to make.

It really comes down to losing one of Roy, Spence or Clarke. What you're saying makes total sense.

 

[Nasti]

I can honestly see the Kings keeping Clarke in the AHL next year.

 

[BaileyFan]

Neither Spence or Clarke will be killing penalties, and neither will be able to thrive against heavy physicality. The right thing to do is to go with the kids and plan a big run a year or two down the road when all the young talent is acclimated and hopefully thriving.

But that isn't happening here. The real issue is Doughty. He won't be able to play big minutes forever, so you want the kids to take over those key offensive spots. However, if you go with Spence and Clarke next year, your matchups are screwed if you are looking for immediate results. Roy does so many things well that losing him in those situations and replacing him with smaller, inexperienced offensive-leaning kids will be a severe blow. Also, Doughty will not accept being taken off of the PP, so what's the point of carrying two similar players and not using one to their premier strength while being significantly weaker in other areas?

Its not an easy decision to make.

I think Spence gets the Vilardi treatment next summer. There's no chance Blake allows Roy to walk when he's staked his job on winning within the next couple years. He will be signed to a lengthy extension. Spence like Vilardi is an RFA in line for a modest raise with a replacement theoretically in line to take his spot. Especially if Spence breaks out, I think he'll be packaged in a deal for a goalie around the draft.

 

[tbrown33]

I think Spence gets the Vilardi treatment next summer. There's no chance Blake allows Roy to walk when he's staked his job on winning within the next couple years. He will be signed to a lengthy extension. Spence like Vilardi is an RFA in line for a modest raise with a replacement theoretically in line to take his spot. Especially if Spence breaks out, I think he'll be packaged in a deal for a goalie around the draft.

Spence has broken out. Those of us who have been banging the drum on how good he is saw this coming. Considering his ceiling and age, moving him would be a giant mistake.

https://x.com/nhlrussell/status/1726633904600481919?s=46&t=SM0eNzKmTh49JVd8vlfpPA

 

[YP44]

I think Spence gets the Vilardi treatment next summer. There's no chance Blake allows Roy to walk when he's staked his job on winning within the next couple years. He will be signed to a lengthy extension. Spence like Vilardi is an RFA in line for a modest raise with a replacement theoretically in line to take his spot. Especially if Spence breaks out, I think he'll be packaged in a deal for a goalie around the draft.

Unless that goalie is Wallstedt i am not interested

 

[AnThGrt]

Unless that goalie is Wallstedt i am not interested

I would gladly do something for Askarov or Saros just picking one single other team.

 

[SmytheKing]

Unless that goalie is Wallstedt i am not interested

I'm pretty sure you're being facetious but I really think people are overestimating the likelihood that the Kings could get him. MIN has absolutely no reason to move him. In fact, I doubt they'd have any interest in moving him for anything less than someone like Bedard. In other words, a no brainer impossible to say no to trade.

We needed to get him on draft day.

 

[Sybil227]

Bussi. And considering the 2 guys he's stuck behind, a more realistic trade.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I would gladly do something for Askarov or Saros just picking one single other team.

Saros 100% yes

Askarov close to 100% yes but he's looking volatile and needs some strong goalie coaching, he's a lot of 'athlete' like Quick

 

[YP44]

I'm pretty sure you're being facetious but I really think people are overestimating the likelihood that the Kings could get him. MIN has absolutely no reason to move him. In fact, I doubt they'd have any interest in moving him for anything less than someone like Bedard. In other words, a no brainer impossible to say no to trade.

We needed to get him on draft day.

No way do I think the Wild would sniff a spence for wallstedt one for one