Stan Kroenke joins real estate group building NHL/NBA quality arena in San Diego

[bleedblue94]

I could see that, but we all know there's like one step for Arizona and Atlanta (arena deals done) and one step for Houston (Feritta pulling the trigger) and one step for Quebec (PKP adding a partner so there's enough money to buy the team).

San Diego and almost anyone else we can think of have 2 steps or 3 steps. San Diego is trying to build an arena, but not trying to own a team, because the Kroenkes already have one. They need an arena AND an owner. (Or an arena AND a buyer for the Avalanche, but that seems unlikely).

I don't think Quebec is anything more than an emergency relocation site.

If SD isn't realistic then Ontario 2.0 is the 4th, but I think selling the avs would be much easier to do if there is an acknowledgement from the league (privately) that sd would get a team.

This isn't all going to happen within the same 2 years or whatever, so the fact each option is on a different schedule is a plus bc they need those factors that create timeline separation.

 

[Bucky_Hoyt]

If this is some sort of idea that Anaheim would relocate to San Diego for some reason, that shows extremely poor (to no) understanding of the current situation in Anaheim.

It's an expression.

But I will be clear that I am of the view that NO TEAM is truly 'safe' in the North American franchise model. A new owner could step in to pull a team out of a market if they pay enough. Regardless of any arena deals, pledges to stay, etc., money talks. Stan and his Walmart family ties have lots of bucks.

 

[mightyquack]

It's an expression.

But I will be clear that I am of the view that NO TEAM is truly 'safe' in the North American franchise model. A new owner could step in to pull a team out of a market if they pay enough. Regardless of any arena deals, pledges to stay, etc., money talks. Stan and his Walmart family ties have lots of bucks.

Anaheim owns the arena they play in, are tied until Honda Center until about 2048 at a minimum IIRC (and there are multiple 5 year options to be exercised after that). Secondly, Anaheim's owners are spending billions on the OCVIBE development around the arena. Anaheim is as safe as any team in the NHL.

 

[Bucky_Hoyt]

Anaheim owns the arena they play in, are tied until Honda Center until about 2048 at a minimum IIRC (and there are multiple 5 year options to be exercised after that). Secondly, Anaheim's owners are spending billions on the OCVIBE development around the arena. Anaheim is as safe as any team in the NHL.

Good on 'em and same for any and all teams in the league. Eventually one team won't be and that's when we'll see movement.

 

[StreetHawk]

The main thing SD would have in its favour is location in the Pacific time zone. Cause, if we get to 36 teams, they'd likely got
Van, Sea, Cal, Edm, Utah, Col, SJ, LA, Ana, LV, AZ in the PST and MST time zones and need 1 more to get to 12 to have 2 divisions of 6. (thus it likely is down to Por or SD for that spot). Otherwise, one of STL, Win, Min would have to play in one of those divisions. If TX has 2 teams they won't pull 1 of them out.

 

[GreenHornet]

So, I noticed THIS story online the other day that would seem to throw a bit of an obstacle into the plans for a new arena (and thus ambitions for an NHL or NBA team at some point).

Now, this article is a month old, but does anyone have any updates?

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/report-finds-san-diego-sports-arena-is-historic/509-41b106ac-7b6a-449d-9586-54c9d3457d73

 

[awfulwaffle]

Anaheim owns the arena they play in, are tied until Honda Center until about 2048 at a minimum IIRC (and there are multiple 5 year options to be exercised after that). Secondly, Anaheim's owners are spending billions on the OCVIBE development around the arena. Anaheim is as safe as any team in the NHL.

Should be noted, just because there is a lease in place, does not mean it can't be broken. There are usually clauses in leases that say you can break a lease by paying a fee. If someone were really willing and wanting to, they could pay said fee and be done with the lease.

 

[TheLegend]

So, I noticed THIS story online the other day that would seem to throw a bit of an obstacle into the plans for a new arena (and thus ambitions for an NHL or NBA team at some point).

Now, this article is a month old, but does anyone have any updates?

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/report-finds-san-diego-sports-arena-is-historic/509-41b106ac-7b6a-449d-9586-54c9d3457d73

They talk about heritage and failed to even mention the ABA San Diego Conquistadors.

The arena was a dinosaur when I went to Gulls games in the mid-90's. As a concert venue it's even worse. The acoustics are abysmal by today's standards.

If they wanted to protect heritage they'd save the Kobey's Swap Meet that was held in the parking lot on the weekends.

 

[GreenHornet]

They talk about heritage and failed to even mention the ABA San Diego Conquistadors.

First thing I noticed, as well. And unless I missed it, they also left out the WHA's San Diego Mariners.