TSN: The Official Ottawa Sports Radio Thread - PART XII

[Loach]

Man Stevenson is unbearably bad on the radio. It makes me pine for Versage.

Nothing he says is particularly stupid, but he's monotone and it takes him 2 minutes to say the most basic and non-controversial thing.

...and then another 5 min to say it again in two different ways...and then 2 min more to repeat what he said at the start word for word. Fired up CJ is the best though. Just barrels along, squaking away!

 

[Masked]

it is weird to me that so many hosts with daughters continue calling it a man’s league - some girls dream of playing in the NHL so that dream should be allowed to live machismo free

Lets be real here. A female is never going to play in the NHL, outside of another publicity stunt like Manon Rheaume. It's not sexist, it's just biology. Elite male athletes are physically superior to elite female athletes.

Assen na yo.

 

[Tuna99]

Lets be real here. A female is never going to play in the NHL, outside of another publicity stunt like Manon Rheaume. It's not sexist, it's just biology. Elite male athletes are physically superior to elite female athletes.

Assen na yo.

I guess the future is written in this post here.

regardless it’s not a man’s league - so the media should stop using that term.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I guess the future is written in this post here.

regardless it’s not a man’s league - so the media should stop using that term.

I suppose the various players can gender identify however they choose.

 

[Ohhh Franco]

I can’t get over how much Simmer’s tone and attitude changes when he’s not on with JR. It’s beyond obvious that he has little interest in what the other hosts have to say or think. He clearly thinks he’s better than them. It’s childish and unprofessional. If the listeners can hear and feel it, imagine what others at TSN1200 are thinking or feeling…

 

[Johnny Hanson]

I can’t get over how much Simmer’s tone and attitude changes when he’s not on with JR. It’s beyond obvious that he has little interest in what the other hosts have to say or think. He clearly thinks he’s better than them. It’s childish and unprofessional. If the listeners can hear and feel it, imagine what others at TSN1200 are thinking or feeling…

I don’t hear it and feel it and I’m an every day listener. So explain what you mean

 

[Stylizer1]

I guess the future is written in this post here.

regardless it’s not a man’s league - so the media should stop using that term.

It is a man's league, it's not a man's sport.

 

[Big Muddy]

If Bob can sell booze, then Melnyk should be allowed to advertise marijuana!

LOL. Would it improve EM's brand?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

It is a man's league, it's not a man's sport.

Aren't they just stating that it is a man's sport, and not for boys?

That is okay, right?

 

[Pronto]

Aren't they just stating that it is a man's sport, and not for boys?

That is okay, right?

Some years ago, I heard I believe it was Kirk Muller tell an anecdote about something Jacques Demers had said between periods during the 93 Cup finals against the Kings. Demers entered the dressing room before the overtime all pumped up and supposedly told the players "all right, it's time to separate the men from the boys, so... let's go boys, let's win this one...". Which got everyone start laughing on their way to the ice without Demers realizing what was so funny.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

LOL. Would it improve EM's brand?

Only way is up!

The taboo is mostly gone, and it's not nearly as destructive as booze that society has been drugging themselves on for centuries, so its only a matter of time.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Booze!

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Just wanted to say I like Chris Stevenson and Creech.. I prefer them over pretty much everyone else they have on post the morning show.

 

[OD99]

I guess the future is written in this post here.

regardless it’s not a man’s league - so the media should stop using that term.

What are you talking about? Who else has played in the league?

The Canadian women's national team play Midget AAA boys teams (15 and 16 year olds) for exhibition games and lose some.

These are the best of the best women and they are great and competive and exciting to watch but they couldn't make it in the NHL.

It's not for lack of talent, just the physical difference between men and women.

 

[Tuna99]

What are you talking about? Who else has played in the league?

The Canadian women's national team play Midget AAA boys teams (15 and 16 year olds) for exhibition games and lose some.

These are the best of the best women and they are great and competive and exciting to watch but they couldn't make it in the NHL.

It's not for lack of talent, just the physical difference between men and women.

i could see a big one timer and elite scoring on the PP - (like a Ovechkin finish but more in the mold of Mike Hoffman) help a female make it to the NHL. Not an insult to anyone but Mike Hoffman plays a game I think anyone who’s an adult could play. I mean that by not a ton of physical engagement, staying out of the corners but elite finish and scoring ability and speed. It’s not a question of if, just a question do when.

also it’s not a woman’s league because we could have female GM’s, HC’s and executive and owners. You’ll see a lot more of this and we’ll soon see female refs, female assistant on the bench and eventually once that happens you’ll see more opportunities for woman at all positions in the NHL. For sure there is a woman out there who could at least GM a team to last place finishes for 5 years, or do what Many recent head coaches in Ottawa have done

somewhere in the world there is a girl who’s shooting pucks and dreams of scoring goals in the NHL - hard to bet against people who have big dreams

 

[Silky Johnson]

i could see a big one timer and elite scoring on the PP - (like a Ovechkin finish but more in the mold of Mike Hoffman) help a female make it to the NHL. Not an insult to anyone but Mike Hoffman plays a game I think anyone who’s an adult could play. I mean that by not a ton of physical engagement, staying out of the corners but elite finish and scoring ability and speed. It’s not a question of if, just a question do when.

also it’s not a woman’s league because we could have female GM’s, HC’s and executive and owners. You’ll see a lot more of this and we’ll soon see female refs, female assistant on the bench and eventually once that happens you’ll see more opportunities for woman at all positions in the NHL. For sure there is a woman out there who could at least GM a team to last place finishes for 5 years, or do what Many recent head coaches in Ottawa have done

somewhere in the world there is a girl who’s shooting pucks and dreams of scoring goals in the NHL - hard to bet against people who have big dreams

Did you not read what he said. The Canadian Womans team, the best woman team in the world, regularly loses to the best 15 and 16 year old boys in a neighbourhood of a Canadian town. Its even a no body checking game, which negates the guys biggest advantage.

The gap is like the Grand Canyon. Some things just are, wether we would like them to be or not. Give your daughters achievable goals. Or better yet, teach them to derive their self worth from things more important than playing hockey.

 

[Micklebot]

The Canadian women's national team play Midget AAA boys teams (15 and 16 year olds) for exhibition games and lose some.

I'm not sure how meaningful this really is, the Phillies lost to a div 2 college team, in basketball the dream team lost to a college all Star team in a scrimmage, both are cases of objectively significantly superior teams losing, it happens in part because the better team either underestimates the opposition or simply does not have the same motivation to win. Nothing is really on the line in exhibition games.

 

[Senovision]

I think someday a woman/or women will play games in the NHL. Not in the next 5 years, but 20, 30, years from now. I am not saying that they will be the next Wayne Gretzky, but there will be a woman/women players. I wrote a piece about this topic 30 some years ago after watching the first Women's World Championships in 1990 in Ottawa. That is my opinion.

 

[Stylizer1]

I'm not sure how meaningful this really is, the Phillies lost to a div 2 college team, in basketball the dream team lost to a college all Star team in a scrimmage, both are cases of objectively significantly superior teams losing, it happens in part because the better team either underestimates the opposition or simply does not have the same motivation to win. Nothing is really on the line in exhibition games.

The dream team loss is a little misleading,



It was a teaching moment not an actual game. It was their first game together.

I am not sure there is a sport that men and women can compete against each other where it would be fair. Maybe curling?

 

[Stylizer1]

I think someday a woman/or women will play games in the NHL. Not in the next 5 years, but 20, 30, years from now. I am not saying that they will be the next Wayne Gretzky, but there will be a woman/women players. I wrote a piece about this topic 30 some years ago after watching the first Women's World Championships in 1990 in Ottawa. That is my opinion.

This would mean that women could get that much stronger and faster or men become slower and weaker. The human body whether male or female has it's limitations.

 

[TheDebater]

I have a bad feeling TSN 1200 will be gone before we know it. The writing is on the wall if you look carefully, and the signs are somewhat telling:

- average to poor radio personalities (in terms of content/quality, not as people of course, they all seem really nice, except for maybe Dean Brown)

- terrible, terrible commercials

- too many commercials (likely a signal of a dwindling budget)

- pandemic affecting NHL games, which is their biggest draw

- terrible, cringey, horrible commercials that repeat daily due to lack of variety and sponsors.

- the precedent of Bell media shutting down a few radio stations earlier in the year (or was that last year?)

 

[Senovision]

I think that it will also depend a lot on the NHL rule changes. This year the NHL has been trying to curb cross checking. If they make further changes , then the game could become less physical 10, 20 or 30 years from now making it more possible for a woman to play in the NHL. Like I stated the female player might not be a dominant player, but could crack an NHL lineup in the future.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I have a bad feeling TSN 1200 will be gone before we know it. The writing is on the wall if you look carefully, and the signs are somewhat telling:

- average to poor radio personalities (in terms of content/quality, not as people of course, they all seem really nice, except for maybe Dean Brown)

- terrible, terrible commercials

- too many commercials (likely a signal of a dwindling budget)

- pandemic affecting NHL games, which is their biggest draw

- terrible, cringey, horrible commercials that repeat daily due to lack of variety and sponsors.

- the precedent of Bell media shutting down a few radio stations earlier in the year (or was that last year?)

As long as there is an NHL team in town, they stay.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Did you not read what he said. The Canadian Womans team, the best woman team in the world, regularly loses to the best 15 and 16 year old boys in a neighbourhood of a Canadian town. Its even a no body checking game, which negates the guys biggest advantage.

The gap is like the Grand Canyon. Some things just are, wether we would like them to be or not. Give your daughters achievable goals. Or better yet, teach them to derive their self worth from things more important than playing hockey.

They lose to major midget AAA (16) years olds, they do win a few though.

 

[Stylizer1]

I have a bad feeling TSN 1200 will be gone before we know it. The writing is on the wall if you look carefully, and the signs are somewhat telling:

- average to poor radio personalities (in terms of content/quality, not as people of course, they all seem really nice, except for maybe Dean Brown)

- terrible, terrible commercials

- too many commercials (likely a signal of a dwindling budget)

- pandemic affecting NHL games, which is their biggest draw

- terrible, cringey, horrible commercials that repeat daily due to lack of variety and sponsors.

- the precedent of Bell media shutting down a few radio stations earlier in the year (or was that last year?)

I predict 580 CFRA and Tsn 1200 will merge. Morning and after noon will be CFRA and from 2pm on it will be TSN. I could see them replacing Dean with AJ, The afternoon show could be JR and Leever with Bunda Producing, and Creech and former NHL player doing games/post games/ 67's/Evening show.