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With the "Player Discussion" threads wrapping up where we predict their point totals and what not, I thought I would start something where we go over some of our contracts and discuss them after they've had a year or so to play out. I am generally interested in this [spoil] But I might be posting simply because I don't want to study for the LSAT this morning.[/spoil]
Jeff Skinner
Age: 22
5'11", 200lbs
2010-2011: 82GP, 31G, 32A, 63P, +3, 46PIM, 215 Shots, 14.4 S%, .77 PPG
2011-2012: 64GP, 20G, 24A, 44P, -8, 56PIM, 210 Shots, 9.5 S%, .69 PPG
Re-signs at $5.725M AAV for 6 Years
2012-2013: 42GP, 13G, 11A, 24P, -21, 26PIM, 159 Shots, 8.2 S%, .57 PPG
2013-2014: 71GP, 33G, 21A, 54P, -14, 22PIM, 274 Shots, 12.0 S%, .76 PPG
NHL Career: 259GP, 97G, 88A, 185P, -40, 150PIM, 858 Shots, 11.3%, .71 PPG
Our Thread Regarding His Extension:
Canes Board Thread Regarding His Extension
Main Board Thread Regarding His Extension
Skinner had a phenomenal first season which led to him winning the Calder Trophy. He followed that up with a more lackluster season involving a concussion. Before the start of his third season, he was re-signed to a 6 year contract with an AAV of $5.725M. In his third season, he performed poorly and got another concussion. Last season he seemed to turn it around, breaking the 30 goal barrier for the first time since his rookie year. He also seemed to show slight improvements defensively.
When Skinner signed his contract extension, the views of most on the Canes board ranged from neutral-positive. Many thinking it was slight overpayment, but overall a solid contract. The main board saw much more varying views. Some very negative to others very positive. Many thinking it was a risky extension with Skinner possibly having concussion issues. Others also thought that the AAV was a little high.
What do you all think about his extension today after two more seasons of play?
Looking back on it, I like the extension a lot. We likely signed him before his third season as a result of his first concussion, hoping to get something of a discount. I think we gambled on him becoming a consistent 30G+ guy without continuing concussion issues. Of course, his third season was not great at all, it was by far his worst and he got another concussion. However, last season he showed the had had learned to keep his head up and not make the dangerous plays that lead to the concussions in the first place. He showed us his first two seasons were not flukes. Had we waited to extend him until after the lockout and into the season, he would likely have signed a 2-3 year bridge deal. I don't think we would have offered him as much over a long term deal due to the consecutive concussions, and I think he would have preferred a 2-3 year lower dollar deal to show that he can overcome that burden. Had we done that, I think we would have ended up paying much more once he was up for another extension. Especially with the cap rises and the way contracts have been going. He may not be the center that we originally drafted, but he is a damn good left wing. I like the extension, though had I been asked a year ago my opinion would likely have been different.
Edit:
Also, I found this while looking through older threads, definitely relevant...Read the description.
Jeff Skinner
Age: 22
5'11", 200lbs
2010-2011: 82GP, 31G, 32A, 63P, +3, 46PIM, 215 Shots, 14.4 S%, .77 PPG
2011-2012: 64GP, 20G, 24A, 44P, -8, 56PIM, 210 Shots, 9.5 S%, .69 PPG
Re-signs at $5.725M AAV for 6 Years
2012-2013: 42GP, 13G, 11A, 24P, -21, 26PIM, 159 Shots, 8.2 S%, .57 PPG
2013-2014: 71GP, 33G, 21A, 54P, -14, 22PIM, 274 Shots, 12.0 S%, .76 PPG
NHL Career: 259GP, 97G, 88A, 185P, -40, 150PIM, 858 Shots, 11.3%, .71 PPG
Our Thread Regarding His Extension:
Canes Board Thread Regarding His Extension
Main Board Thread Regarding His Extension
Skinner had a phenomenal first season which led to him winning the Calder Trophy. He followed that up with a more lackluster season involving a concussion. Before the start of his third season, he was re-signed to a 6 year contract with an AAV of $5.725M. In his third season, he performed poorly and got another concussion. Last season he seemed to turn it around, breaking the 30 goal barrier for the first time since his rookie year. He also seemed to show slight improvements defensively.
When Skinner signed his contract extension, the views of most on the Canes board ranged from neutral-positive. Many thinking it was slight overpayment, but overall a solid contract. The main board saw much more varying views. Some very negative to others very positive. Many thinking it was a risky extension with Skinner possibly having concussion issues. Others also thought that the AAV was a little high.
What do you all think about his extension today after two more seasons of play?
Looking back on it, I like the extension a lot. We likely signed him before his third season as a result of his first concussion, hoping to get something of a discount. I think we gambled on him becoming a consistent 30G+ guy without continuing concussion issues. Of course, his third season was not great at all, it was by far his worst and he got another concussion. However, last season he showed the had had learned to keep his head up and not make the dangerous plays that lead to the concussions in the first place. He showed us his first two seasons were not flukes. Had we waited to extend him until after the lockout and into the season, he would likely have signed a 2-3 year bridge deal. I don't think we would have offered him as much over a long term deal due to the consecutive concussions, and I think he would have preferred a 2-3 year lower dollar deal to show that he can overcome that burden. Had we done that, I think we would have ended up paying much more once he was up for another extension. Especially with the cap rises and the way contracts have been going. He may not be the center that we originally drafted, but he is a damn good left wing. I like the extension, though had I been asked a year ago my opinion would likely have been different.
Edit:
Also, I found this while looking through older threads, definitely relevant...Read the description.