Proposal: P.K. Subban

Prongo

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Pietrangelo may have been available but with that teams resurgence I don’t think they will be looking to move any core players. Unless they absolutely are terrible and lose out going forward but that seems like a missed opportunity or a case of a GM being patient and it working.
 

TCTC

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Why the infatuation with 165 lb Spurgeon? the team is too small already. I would be very excited about a trade that brought in Parayko
Voracek & Ghost for Parayko & Bozak
I don't think size is an issue on our defense. Provorov isn't small. Sanheim isn't small. Myers isn't small. Morin definitely isn't small.
We don't need a big defenseman. We just need a really good defenseman.
 
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deadhead

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I don't think size is an issue on our defense. Provorov isn't small. Sanheim isn't small. Myers isn't small. Morin definitely isn't small.
We don't need a big defenseman. We just need a really good defenseman.

Size WAS a problem.
If Sanheim hits the weight room this summer (he's admitted he needs strength), Myers and Morin, not so much any more.
 

Adam Warlock

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I am all onboard for EK.

Provorov-Karlsson
Sanheim-Gudas
Ghost-Myers
Morin

Gudas would be our worst puck mover by a mile and he himself is not that bad. I don't know another team that would have a D core that deep in puck movers.

D men are just too costly to trade for. I'd rather go after the FA and go after a forward via trade.
 

Rebels57

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I am all onboard for EK.

Provorov-Karlsson
Sanheim-Gudas
Ghost-Myers
Morin

Gudas would be our worst puck mover by a mile and he himself is not that bad. I don't know another team that would have a D core that deep in puck movers.

D men are just too costly to trade for. I'd rather go after the FA and go after a forward via trade.

Go get Karlsson AND Duchene. Buyout MacDonald and trade Gudas and we are fine cap wise. f*** it. I wanna get spicy.
 
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Adam Warlock

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Go get Karlsson AND Duchene. Buyout MacDonald and trade Gudas and we are fine cap wise. **** it. I wanna get spicy.

I mean that would be the simple classic Flyers offseason. It would pretty much satisfy everyone. It would improve the team but not cost any crucial roster players or prospects. Id try to keep Gudas and just let him walk at the end of the year...but if they needed to clear his salary Morin could just replace him. Trade HOG for a decent 13th forward.

Giroux-Couturier-Voracek
JVR-Duchene-Konecny
Lindblom-Patrick-Forst/Farabee
Raffl-Laughton-Hartman

Provorov-Karlsson
Sanheim-Gudas
Ghost-Myers
Morin

Hart
Who Cares
 

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I mean that would be the simple classic Flyers offseason. It would pretty much satisfy everyone. It would improve the team but not cost any crucial roster players or prospects. Id try to keep Gudas and just let him walk at the end of the year...but if they needed to clear his salary Morin could just replace him. Trade HOG for a decent 13th forward.

Giroux-Couturier-Voracek
JVR-Duchene-Konecny
Lindblom-Patrick-Forst/Farabee
Raffl-Laughton-Hartman

Provorov-Karlsson
Sanheim-Gudas
Ghost-Myers
Morin

Hart
Who Cares

If they were to somehow sign Karlsson and Duchene, they'd have to trade Ghost or Gudas. Even after trading Hagg and buying out MacDonald, they'd still be more than $1 million over the cap. This is from capfriendly and I may be off on the RFA extensions, but i'm guessing it's pretty close.

23$84,000,000$87,390,832$0$2,995,000-$1,290,832
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Roster

[TR][TH]Left WingCentreRight Wing
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
Konecny, Travis
$4,500,000
RW, LW
RFA
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
Duchene, Matt
$9,500,000
C, LW
UFA
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000
RW
UFA - 5
Lindblom, Oskar
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
Patrick, Nolan
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
Frost, Morgan
$894,166
C
RFA - 2
Raffl, Michael
$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Laughton, Scott
$2,000,000
C
RFA
Hartman, Ryan
$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$962,500
RW
RFA
[TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY][/TH][/TR][/TBODY]
[TBODY][TR][TH]
[TR][TH]Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Provorov, Ivan
$6,000,000
D
RFA
Karlsson, Erik
$11,000,000
D
UFA
Hart, Carter
$730,833
G
RFA - 2
Sanheim, Travis
$4,500,000
D
RFA
Myers, Philippe
$678,333
D
RFA - 1
Talbot, Cam
$1,500,000
G
UFA
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
D
UFA - 4
Gudas, Radko
$3,350,000
D
UFA - 1
Morin, Samuel
$700,000
D
RFA - 2
[TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY][/TH][/TR][/TBODY]
[TBODY][TR][TH]
[TR][TH]ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
[TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY][/TH][/TR][/TBODY]
[/TH][/TR][/TBODY][/TH][/TR][/TBODY]
 
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prototypical4thliner

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If they were to somehow sign Karlsson and Duchene, they'd have to trade Ghost or Gudas. Even after trading Hagg and buying out MacDonald, they'd still be more than $1 million over the cap. This is from capfriendly and I may be off on the RFA extensions, but i'm guessing it's pretty close.

23$84,000,000$87,390,832$0$2,995,000-$1,290,832
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
Konecny, Travis
$4,500,000
RW, LW
RFA
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
Duchene, Matt
$9,500,000
C, LW
UFA
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000
RW
UFA - 5
Lindblom, Oskar
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
Patrick, Nolan
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
Frost, Morgan
$894,166
C
RFA - 2
Raffl, Michael
$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Laughton, Scott
$2,000,000
C
RFA
Hartman, Ryan
$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
$962,500
RW
RFA
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Provorov, Ivan
$6,000,000
D
RFA
Karlsson, Erik
$11,000,000
D
UFA
Hart, Carter
$730,833
G
RFA - 2
Sanheim, Travis
$4,500,000
D
RFA
Myers, Philippe
$678,333
D
RFA - 1
Talbot, Cam
$1,500,000
G
UFA
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
D
UFA - 4
Gudas, Radko
$3,350,000
D
UFA - 1
Morin, Samuel
$700,000
D
RFA - 2
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
I don’t disagree at the values but duchene at 9.5 is instantly nausea inducing.
 

deadhead

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Duchene isn't in the same ballpark as a player as Stone, so if he gets $9+M, it's a gross overpay.
 
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flyersfromquebec

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Duchene isn't in the same ballpark as a player as Stone, so if he gets $9+M, it's a gross overpay.

And to have Duchene at 9+ and Karlsson at 11+ I would do it...next year could be real exciting if Fletcher can use his magic in UFA while keeping the core and the young.
 

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