This is all over the place...
He's produced at the AHL level, and has a small sample of inconsistant production at the NHL level. He produced well last year given his role, and not as well this year, but the fundamentals were there, hence my comment. Yes, if he continues to struggle to produce it will be concerning, and in the meantime his stock has suffered because we haven't gotten immediate results, but the point being made was there are still signs he will do fine.
No, people don't use the argument that small samples makes projecting based on production unreliable when they have large samples...
Not sure why you're bringing up Mete, he really doesn't show the same offensive fundamentals Brannstrom does. He's also never produced even as well as Brannstrom did this year. Mete is good at one thing, skating with the puck. That's it. If you see them as equivalent in terms of their offensive skillset or effectiveness, there we aren't going to see eye to eye here.
Ok? The whole argument has been that he's doing the things that will lead to production over the long haul, so lets be patient and not let a small sample push us into knee jerk reactions. Given reasonable icetime and some 2nd unit PP usage, I expect him to land in the 30-40 pts range over 82 games. If he gets relegated to bottom pair with minimal icetime, he'll probably be closer to 20 pts. His biggest challenge is going to be finding icetime with Chabot and Sanderson in the lineup, I don't think he'll be used on his offside, so that might be tough.
My argument was solely that his stock has suffered significantly. So we seem to agree in the first paragraph, but you keep arguing.
Right now we just have samples of very inconsistent production, and lack of production at the NHL level.
I'm bringing up mete not because their skillset is similar. I'm showing you how quickly small defenseman who don't put up numbers lose value. A few years ago mete had value. Now he's waiver fodder because he never learned to produce..I'm showing mete as brannstroms future if he puts up shitty numbers this year. He'll be boarderline waiver fodder. If not by next year, the year after. My point has always been that his value is declining fast and nothing more. I don't see their skills as the same and obviously see brannstrom as having more offensive potential. The thing I'm saying is, I also thought mete had more offensive potential a few years ago. You have to actually realize that potential or your value will fall.
Those are some lofty expectations that I would assume most won't think he'll hit this year. The other thing is, this is widely regarded as a bottom 10 D in the league. If he can't crack it and get a decent amount of ice time in his 6th year after being drafted on a weak D, how much value does he really have?
He used to have 1st round pick value. Good luck finding any team trading their first straight up for brannstrom.
Heck, do you think if you created a value of thread, that anyone would be willing to give their 2nd straight up for brannstrom? Maybeeeee as top team like Tampa and it's a late second? More likely, teams would be offering their 3rd round pick for him is my guess.
So my whole point is that his value has gone down and down because of things like size, lack of production, lack of being able to rise on a weak team. If he can't produce or even be a top 4 on a very weak team by age 23, his value simply won't be there.
He's worth maybe a late 2nd, most likely a 3rd...and his value will fall even more without proper offensive production this year.
if you agree with the bolded, there isn't much reason to argue as that's my main argument.