Value of: Mitch Marner this offseason (2.5 mil retained)

[Namikaze Minato]

Sorry not buying. Tkachuk is all heart so he had the will to improve. I just dont see that in Marner. It wasnt media stress that hurt Tkachuk in Calgary. It was playing with a bunch of guys with Marners heart

I'm not selling it, I'm just giving you a possible reason "why".

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Nobody is expecting a team like Chicago to give up (extremely high) picks but Vegas, Tampa, Edmonton, etc have shown they don't give a f*** and will go after who they want regardless of the (late first round) picks.

Getting a top prospect with 2 firsts isn't really the structure of a Marner deal though.

None of those teams can afford his extension/cap

Also, TB is tapped light on futures at this point to trade and after the Jeannot debacle cant afford to throw away more

 

[Namikaze Minato]

None of those teams can afford his extension/cap

Also, TB is tapped light on futures at this point to trade and after the Jeannot debacle cant afford to throw away more

Oh for sure, not saying it would happen or even be likely but I think the "2 firsts" part wouldn't be the deal breaker for a contender that thinks he can help.

 

[Cancuks]

I can see him ending up in Pittsburgh with Dubas. Or in LA to be closer to Bieber.

 

[Bouboumaster]

What are Toronto's needs?

 

[Bounces R Way]

Honestly I have no idea what kind of value Marner would have in this market. Could be a lot, could be not very much. With one year left who is looking to add a Mitch Marner as the missing piece. Probably nobody, even retained. Maybe Winnipeg gets desperate if they're out in 5?

If the Leafs do trade him I could see him in Utah, new team new owner wanting to make a splash and spend some money on a player that can make plays. Armstrong has a ton of picks in the next two drafts to work with.

 

[Iwishihadaspacebar]

What are Toronto's needs?

After watching Makar and Hughes last night, a fast skating D man who can move the puck is becoming more and more important and that Leafs D isn't that. Plus a goalie, plus forwards who you hate playing against, plus a new coach.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Why pay a fortune for an overpaid playoff no-show?

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Some team is going to sign him for big dollars and regret it. Anything over 8.5 for him is too much. I wouldnt even give him that. The regular season is when players make money. The playoffs are when the team makes $. He is a bad investment

When guys like Huberdeau, Gaudreau, PLD, Caufield ect ect have all made around that number or higher recently, over 8.5 definitely isn't to much for him. He also ranks 22nd in playoff PPG since 2022 so although he hasn't lived up to expectation he definitely hasn't been awful.

After watching Makar and Hughes last night, a fast skating D man who can move the puck is becoming more and more important and that Leafs D isn't that. Plus a goalie, plus forwards who you hate playing against, plus a new coach.

would love for them to target Montour this off-season. would fill such a big need for them

 

[HawksDub89]

Nobody is expecting a team like Chicago to give up (extremely high) picks but Vegas, Tampa, Edmonton, etc have shown they don't give a f*** and will go after who they want regardless of the (late first round) picks.

Getting a top prospect with 2 firsts isn't really the structure of a Marner deal though.

Tampa?!?! Lol

They have no 1sts or top prospects…(or cap space)

 

[CarlSneep]

Still think Marner for Drew Doughty makes a certain amount of sense

 

[Frank Drebin]

Marner for PLD

 

[4thline]

Phil "Hot dog boy/ Winger you can't win with" Kessel was traded coming a 61 point season where he completely quit, with a lot of years left on a big contract, fitness based questions of his longevity, trade protection that he leveraged to take the market down to 1-2 teams, by a rookie GM and along with a 2nd returned
-A playoff protected 1st
-3rd
-Top ~30-40 prospect league wide a year away from being picked 1st round
-a thought to be near NHL ready defense prospect
-25point defensive depth forward

Marner is an objectively better player and more attractive asset than Kessel was at that time

 

[Tuggy]

I'm very curious to see what his next contract will be. He's already making nearly 11M and at his age, he'll expect a raise. I don't think he's an 11M player right now, so I certainly wouldn't give him more.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Marner to me is like Gaudreau... A very skilled forward and 100+ pts potential when in the mix of other good forwards and a good center. When he is not in that mix, go see Gaudreau's season this past year.

I just don't see the Leafs getting the 1/1 trade they are looking for (if they move Marner). However, they could do a package trade and get a younger piece on D and maybe a goalie.

Leafs problem is grit in key areas but they need to improve that D core. Pietrangelo was the guy the Leafs needed to sign. Cap problems yes but that's who they needed to sign back when.

Marner has a NMC... He's not likely to waive it for a playoff pretender. Maybe he waives it for the Kings and PLD comes the other way. What else is added... not sure. Dubois's NMC kicks in July 1st.

 

[Budz]

Chicago seems like a good fit, no?
Bedard set up man.

 

[HighPlainsDrifter]

Wison and a second

 

[Lt Dan]

Still think Marner for Drew Doughty makes a certain amount of sense

If one is a Leaf fan , maybe. That trade is awful.
How about PLD for Marner?

 

[robertmac43]

2. He hasn't played well in the playoffs at all, not just this year.

He did earlier in his career. Marner was great in the Washington series and first Boston series. Second Boston alright.

From the bubble season on though he has been a black hole...There is just nothing there.

 

[lawrence]

Expect a package deal, similar to what buffalo got for eichel. Like a 1st round pick a roster player mid 20s and previous high draft pick prospect.

 

[StewPete]

Pelech and JGP

 

[Sausages]

Still think Marner for Drew Doughty makes a certain amount of sense

Uh, no. PLD, yes!

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Tampa?!?! Lol

They have no 1sts or top prospects…(or cap space)

I didn't say they are, I said they showed that teams will.

 

[wetcoast]

I'm not disagreeing with you. He will ask for 12 no doubt. If any GM is actually watching this team though, they would have to be a complete dumb f*** to give that guy 12 million over 8 years. It must be common sense at this point, that he is no where near his current 10.9 let alone 12. Hopefully its Trevilling that commits that much.

Look at Johnny hockey and Marner is a much better overall player.

The mix in Toronto is wrong but people dumping on Marner are showing their bias or lack of hockey knowledge.

 

[Castle8130]

Habs: Marner (retained) signs extension

Leafs: Seth Jones + Hawks 34th oa

Hawks: 5th oa

Everybody wins