Presidents trophy lmaoIf Ottawa had their 2013 goaltending this season where do they finish in the standings?
Presidents trophy lmaoIf Ottawa had their 2013 goaltending this season where do they finish in the standings?
crazy that Dorion was allowed to make this deal after the Murray debacle lol
The amount of everything Dorion has spent on terrible.The amount of money Dorion has spent on terrible goaltending is absolutely mind blowing..
Incompetence.
Yeah, defense in front of them hasn’t been stellar but both Korpisalo and Forsberg have been terrible.
Agreed with the above, but I also think giving signing bonuses to his next signing can show that too. Can't remember the lat time we gave out a contract with a signing bonus or front-loaded it to make it more worthwhile for a player.Andlauer can pretty quickly put his money where his mouth is an endear himself to the fanbase with a Korpisalo buyout. Eight years is obviously a long time to pay someone to go away but the cap # on the buyout isn't prohibitive enough in the short or long term to really matter. This is one of the easiest ways for him to flex his wallet and show us he's willing to move off mistakes.
It definitely adds some financial flexibility to a team that very well might need it this summer if they're planning on using FA to fill 2-3 roster holes.
Andlauer can pretty quickly put his money where his mouth is an endear himself to the fanbase with a Korpisalo buyout. Eight years is obviously a long time to pay someone to go away but the cap # on the buyout isn't prohibitive enough in the short or long term to really matter. This is one of the easiest ways for him to flex his wallet and show us he's willing to move off mistakes.
It definitely adds some financial flexibility to a team that very well might need it this summer if they're planning on using FA to fill 2-3 roster holes.
Generally, I agree. But, it's also a question of balance potentially between long term and short term.Andlauer can pretty quickly put his money where his mouth is an endear himself to the fanbase with a Korpisalo buyout. Eight years is obviously a long time to pay someone to go away but the cap # on the buyout isn't prohibitive enough in the short or long term to really matter. This is one of the easiest ways for him to flex his wallet and show us he's willing to move off mistakes.
It definitely adds some financial flexibility to a team that very well might need it this summer if they're planning on using FA to fill 2-3 roster holes.
A buyout doesn't make sense.
They would save roughly the same amount of money over the lifetime of the contract through burying him in the AHL. This is assuming he is not the best option for the #2 goalie spot. If he beats out whoever else is in the organization for that spot, he saves them 1.XXM by proxy since they don't have to pay a different player to be the backup.
The only reason to buy him out is for cap management, not cap savings. It frees up short term cap space at the expense of long term cap space. They are tight to the cap this offseason, but they may not need the extra money this frees up.
Damn he spoke at garbage bag day tooAlexander Daigle: "I don't want to say it, but Ottawa goaltending is suspect at best"...
Prime Tortorella would not be able to motivate this team if Korpisalo comes back next year and shits the bed a few games in.There is no real downside to giving him 1 more year. It would be smart management. They only save a few 100k extra throughout the lifetime of the contract via a buyout, but they lose any shot at either freeing up additional cap space if the opportunity comes to trade him with retention, or to use him as a moving part in a bigger trade. While he isn't likely to bounce back and become a wicked goalie, they also lose any chance of benefiting if he finds a way to clean up his game and at least become a solid 25-30 game goalie again, like he was in the past.
I think it’s 2.67 savedA buyout doesn't make sense.
They would save roughly the same amount of money over the lifetime of the contract through burying him in the AHL. This is assuming he is not the best option for the #2 goalie spot. If he beats out whoever else is in the organization for that spot, he saves them 1.XXM by proxy since they don't have to pay a different player to be the backup.
The only reason to buy him out is for cap management, not cap savings. It frees up short term cap space at the expense of long term cap space. They are tight to the cap this offseason, but they may not need the extra money this frees up.
Buying him out frees up 3.67M next season, but you have to factor in the possibility of him beating out Sogaard for the #2 position. If they have to pay Sogaard or UFA veteran 1M+ to be the backup, you have to deduct that from the 3.67M saved, because they wouldn't incur that additional cost with Korpisalo on the roster. So in reality, it probably saves them somewhere around 2.5M, since he is clearly penciled in as their #2 goalie next year.
There is no real downside to giving him 1 more year. It would be smart management. They only save a few 100k extra throughout the lifetime of the contract via a buyout, but they lose any shot at either freeing up additional cap space if the opportunity comes to trade him with retention, or to use him as a moving part in a bigger trade. While he isn't likely to bounce back and become a wicked goalie, they also lose any chance of benefiting if he finds a way to clean up his game and at least become a solid 25-30 game goalie again, like he was in the past.
Nashville bought out 4 years of Turris, and Vancouver bought out 4 years of Ekman Larsson, it's not unheard of to buyout 4 years of an underperforming player,I think it’s 2.67 saved
4 - 1.33
But Korpisalo isn’t getting bought out, like you said, not with 8 years of cap hit penalty.
Still got 4 more seasons of White to pay lol.
They did but they gave them more than 1 year before doing it.Nashville bought out 4 years of Turris, and Vancouver bought out 4 years of Ekman Larsson, it's not unheard of to buyout 4 years of an underperforming player,
Forsberg will be gone, Korpisalo won’t.If Korpisalo is on the roster that would be a massive failure and not a team that’s serious about making the playoffs bottom line
To be fair, those guys had careers that actually justified their contracts, Korpisalo.... not so much.They did but they gave them more than 1 year before doing it.
Seems like the rest of his career tells us that this year is exactly what we should expect out of Korpisalo going forward.To be fair, those guys had careers that actually justified their contracts, Korpisalo.... not so much.
It might be hard(er) to attract free agents going forward buying out a guy we just signed. Optics are certainly not good.I think it would be hard to expect the guys to come in to camp next year with confidence if #70 is our first option.
I guess I just don't see what they have to lose by trying almost anyone else. They received replacement level performance and Korpisalo's career says that's about what should be expected. What is anyone expecting to change without personnel change?It might be hard(er) to attract free agents going forward buying out a guy we just signed. Optics are certainly not good.
I think we need to change something, if that means bringing in a different starter in favour of Forsberg rather than Korpi, so be it,
In the end, I think the confidence will come from the performance, not the name plate. Kopri and Forsberg seem well liked. Players will give him a chance, but if it goes south that confidence won't last long.
If so not trilled at all hopefully the Forsberg replacement plays majority of the games less Korpisalo, the better.Forsberg will be gone, Korpisalo won’t.
Korpi will be in Belleville if he doesn’t have a good start.