mpp9
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Who holds greater value to the organization moving forward? It's obvious there's going to be some serious turnover with our D lineup in the coming years.
Who holds greater value to the organization moving forward? It's obvious there's going to be some serious turnover with our D lineup in the coming years.
If Joe Morrow were to put everything together and reach his ultimate potential, then I think he has the higher upside and most valuable asset -- to this organization or another. I say this because he is even faster, even stronger, and even tougher than DP. But he is less sure to reach his "ultimate" level of potential. In truth, we don't yet know if Morrow will be a really nice, complementary guy in our top-6 (like Niskanen is on our team), or if he will end up being a legit, top-pairing, all-star Dman.
Derrick Pouliot, on the other hand and IMO, is more likely to reach his highest potential due to superior hockey sense, poise, and pedigree than Morrow. In addition, while Morrow has very good offensive upside, DP's overall offensive upside is even higher, and more unique within our prospect pool & organiztion. So I think he is more likely to be a valuable asset to our hockey club.
I personally voted DP as #1 in our prospect poll for these reasons; but at the same time acknowledge that Morrow could end up being the best of them all if he reaches his full potential.
If Joe Morrow were to put everything together and reach his ultimate potential, then I think he has the higher upside and most valuable asset -- to this organization or another. I say this because he is even faster, even stronger, and even tougher than DP. But he is less sure to reach his "ultimate" level of potential. In truth, we don't yet know if Morrow will be a really nice, complementary guy in our top-6 (like Niskanen is on our team), or if he will end up being a legit, top-pairing, all-star Dman.
Derrick Pouliot, on the other hand and IMO, is more likely to reach his highest potential due to superior hockey sense, poise, and pedigree than Morrow. In addition, while Morrow has very good offensive upside, DP's overall offensive upside is even higher, and more unique within our prospect pool & organiztion. So I think he is more likely to be a valuable asset to our hockey club.
I personally voted DP as #1 in our prospect poll for these reasons; but at the same time acknowledge that Morrow could end up being the best of them all if he reaches his full potential.
Morrow could have played in the NHL last year. I would have picked Forsberg.
Morrow could have played in the NHL last year. I would have picked Forsberg.
And Pouliot is underrated by a lot of people. Pens organization picked him for a reason
and he´s just doing everything Pens could expect from him so far.
He has a very good season, Morrow has never been any better in Portland than Pouliot is right now.
Only time will tell the truth.
Got to give Pouliot at least another year or two to see where his development is at.
I agree. But when Morrow was teamed with Letang in preseason he did not look out of place.
That's for sure. It all comes from him being a lat cut in camp last year and almost making the team. That was exactly what was said about Bisonnette, and look how he turned out. Also Morrow has been terrible in WBS this year. The idea that he is ready for the NHL is laughable.
Yeah, its the same reason that they picked Angelo Esposito.
Really? What exactly is that. He didn't make TC. He isn't scoring at a particularly high pace. His defense is still suspect. So what has he done?
Oh really? And you know this exactly how? You watched Portland a lot, have you? Or are you just making this up based on what other people on HF who also haven't seen them play say?
Thanks for the deep insight.
It's amazing how anyone could have an opinion on a topic like this. You could throw a blanket over Morrow, Pouliot, along with Depres and Maata. There is virtually nothing accomplishment-wise to distinguish among them. All are defensemen who are #20-30 picks. (That's where Pouliot belongs, especially in a good draft). All were good, but not exceptional in juniors. Morrow and Depres have both been terrible at WBS and with Maata and Pouliot is still in junior, so can't separate them on this basis. They even differ little in skill set, except for Pouliot, who is somewhat better offensively and worse defensively than the rest. Maybe a professional scout could tell you that one is better than the others, but I'm not a professional scout and neither is anyone who mouths off here about who is better.
The basic fact about prospects, even "good" ones, drafted outside very top is that the vast majority amount to nothing significant. As anyone with a brain knows, you can't making predictions of the future without taking apriori probabilities into account. This is a fundamental reasoning error commonly made by people who aren't very bright. So if you you don't have any real facts, the best prediction is that the prospect will never be a high impact player. The Pens have a lot of good but not great prospects. (People talk about Morrow and Pouliot as if they were Hamilton and Gormley level prospects) This improves the odds that at least one will turn out well. But anyone who thinks that he can predict which is in full delusion mode.
I hope for Sheros sake that Pouliot pans out given that there was so many high-potential forwards on the board when he was drafted, but it's still a crap shoot at this point.
I've seen you mention Pouliot's scoring in the WHL numerous times and how you are not impressed by it. He has 36 points in 35 games which is 2nd in the entire league.
I'd also suggest you change the tune of your postings. Guys who have postings here that read like your's don't last very long typically.