Hart Trophy Tournament (Post 2000's) Round 1: 2009 Ovechkin vs 2012 Malkin

[blundluntman]

MATCHUP #8: Alexander Ovechkin (2009) vs Evgeni Malkin (2012)

Alexander Ovechkin (2008-09):
79 GP 56 G 54 A 110 Points | 2nd In Scoring, 1st in Goals, 10th in Assists

Evgeni Malkin (2011-12):
76 GP 50 G 59 A 109 Points | 1st in Scoring, 2nd in Goals, 3rd in Assists

Round 1 Matchups:
Sakic 01 vs Crosby 14 Thread
Theodore 02 vs Price 15 Thread
Forsberg 03 vs Kane 16 Thread
St. Louis 04 vs Kucherov 19 Thread
Thornton 06 vs Hall 18 Thread
Crosby 07 vs McDavid 17 Thread
Ovechkin 08 vs Matthews 22 Thread
Ovechkin 09 vs Malkin 12
Sedin 10 vs Draisaitl 20
Perry 11 vs McDavid 21
Ovechkin 13 vs McDavid 23

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[The Macho King]

Malkin by a hair. Close though.

 

[Despote]

This is clearly Malkin. Lower scoring season and was still well ahead in p/gp.

 

[filinski77]

Malkins best season imo - he wins this.

 

[Gurglesons]

Malkin’s 11-12 is a top 3 hart season in the cap era

 

[JackSlater]

This is a close one, two strong Harts. I'd go Malkin very narrowly but Ovechkin has a case.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Malkin had the best Hart campaign in this whole "tournament" IMO.

 

[Miro4Norris]

Pretty easily 2012 Malkin. Malkin was better in 2009 also tbh.

 

[filinski77]

Pretty easily 2012 Malkin. Malkin was better in 2009 also tbh.

Malkin was not at all better in 2009 than Ovi lol.

In 3 less games, Ovechkin had 3 less points and 21 more goals. Malkin also had Crosby on his team that produced at essentially the exact same level, and was in on like 50% of Malkins points.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Malkin was not at all better in 2009 than Ovi lol.

In 3 less games, Ovechkin had 3 less points and 21 more goals. Malkin also had Crosby on his team that produced at essentially the exact same level, and was in on like 50% of Malkins points.

Ovechkin took some healthy games off that year. That will usually result in points/game going up slightly.

As to the thread, this is Malkin pretty clearly.

 

[Plural]

Narrowly Geno

 

[wetcoast]

Pretty easily 2012 Malkin.

Agree

Malkin was better in 2009 also tbh.

There is a good argument there.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Ovechkin stomped Malkin in 2009 Hart voting (115 first place votes to 12) and the players said Ovechkin was better as well.

Some pretty good history revision going on in this thread.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Ovechkin took some healthy games off that year. That will usually result in points/game going up slightly.

Seems pretty bizarre to claim 3 games are going to sway PPG in any noticeable way during a 79 game season.

 

[KareemTrustfund]

I think Malkin wins this whole tournament. That season was a master class in domination we haven’t seen since.

 

[Johnny Tomala]

Malkin.

 

[SkinsFan09]

Agree



There is a good argument there.

Ovechkin handily won MVP and more importantly, Pearson and didn't have the luxury of playing with a player we all agree is top 5-10 ever.

As for this thread, 2012 Malkin easily. For the same reason as 2008 Ovechkin, just absolutely dragged a team.

 

[wetcoast]

Ovechkin handily won MVP and more importantly, Pearson and didn't have the luxury of playing with a player we all agree is top 5-10 ever.

Sure Malkin got 77 games of a 21 year old crosby that year but both guys had double the points of the 3rd best Penguin.

If anything Ovi had the better supporting core cast that season and heck it's not even close.

As for this thread, 2012 Malkin easily. For the same reason as 2008 Ovechkin, just absolutely dragged a team.

That's fair.

 

[SkinsFan09]

Sure Malkin got 77 games of a 21 year old crosby that year but both guys had double the points of the 3rd best Penguin.

Considering 20 year old Crosby put up 120 points, getting a 21 year old Crosby seems great.

I take this stance though for all MVPs where two players are over 100 unless there's a massive gap like McDavid's 150 point season. Just my opinion though, others have differing views.

 

[bobholly39]

I think Malkin wins this whole tournament. That season was a master class in domination we haven’t seen since.

No

McDavid has at least 2 better seasons. Ovechkin probably has 1, and I still really like a couple of other seasons too. I think Malkin is one of the strong ones, but definitely not #1.

 

[KareemTrustfund]

No

McDavid has at least 2 better seasons. Ovechkin probably has 1, and I still really like a couple of other seasons too. I think Malkin is one of the strong ones, but definitely not #1.

08-09 would be considered Ovies best season and he’s currently losing to Malkin right now.

That one McDavid season though could beat Malkin though , I don’t disagree with that.

 

[Regal]

08-09 would be considered Ovies best season and he’s currently losing to Malkin right now.

That one McDavid season though could beat Malkin though , I don’t disagree with that.

07-08 was Ovechkin’s best year. This was his third best