Speculation: Fire Rob Blake Blow it Up Offseason Thread (update: Robitaille and Blake stay)

[King'sPawn]

His actions and his literal comments on his show say otherwise. I believe it was his most recent podcast where he implied that if he went negative about the Kings that he would lose access and fans would lose insider info, that is not a normal way for a team/media relationship to be. But then again with their actions towards certain media members it's clear that the Kings under Luc and Blake have no desire to have a traditional media set-up.

Furthermore, the ridiculous unprofessional interview last summer where Yannetti told multiple blatant unchecked lies on Hoven's podcast, in particular that "We have always done it this way, slow cooking brought us two Stanley Cups". Anyone who has been a fan of this team through that era knows that was a lie, Yannetti knew it was a lie, Hoven knew it was a lie, Bernstein knew it was a lie, I knew it was a lie, you knew it was a lie, and not a thing was said at the time or since then to point out that the Kings Director of Scouting spewed BS on his podcast. Now if you want to say that Hoven didn't want to step on any toes by calling out the lies in real-time (despite hyping Yannetti as such an honest straight shooter) you can take that angle, but he has on multiple occasions amplified those lies on subsequent future podcasts, saying things like "You heard it here from Yank, Kings fans, the way they are handling youth now is exactly the same way they did under Lombardi, and that brought two Stanley Cups". That is indeed parroting the lies of the organization, I just don't see how anyone could say otherwise.

Compare it to when Surfin Muzz went on ATKM and told an equally blatant whopper lie about AHL usage for all young players, while the lie was not checked at the time, at least the host(s) of that podcast do not continue to amplify and parrot the lies of members of the organization, that is why people come at Hoven and Bernstein but not Jesse. There is a level of professionalism on ATKM that is completely non-existent on Hoven's podcast.

I've already addressed a lot of this in a previous post, so I apologize if I don't respond to every point again. And you as well as several others have your opinions on Hoven, and it's pointless to argue or try to change your minds.

The focus is on the draft now. There's very little from any media source about additional news regarding PLD, coaching changes, management changes, etc. You can keep thinking that Hoven's just sitting by his phone waiting for the next thing management wants him to say. He's not. Like the rest of us, he also has a full-time job and follows up the best he can with the information he thinks is accurate, interesting, and appropriate for public consumption. If there's nothing there from Hoven, it either doesn't match the criteria above or he doesn't have any information.

As far as Yannetti, you keep claiming how much he lies when we literally agree with the general point that the Kings take an unconventional and rigid path to development, and even their top picks spend way too much time in the AHL. Are there exceptions? Yes. But to say Yannetti is flat out lying at this point, when even we complain about the Kings developmental decisions, is talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Based on his social media, I do think Hoven has a lot of genuine respect for Yannetti. If I were to make a top-3 list of people he has openly shared the highest respect, it would be Kyle Clifford, Mike Stothers, and Mark Yannetti.

Is it respect to the point of naivete? That's up to you to decide. I think when Yannetti tells this "lie", it's a general attitude of management and the team without delving into the exceptions. That's my interpretation.

I get Hoven and Bernstein rub people the wrong way. I can't control that. I think, unfortunately, there has been an increasingly combative relationship between some fans and KotP. That doesn't make things okay. But I'm not going to tell them how to do their podcast unsolicited, either.

I will say, and I said it earlier in the thread, that I mentioned the importance of knowing the audience for articles - fans are rightfully frustrated with management, and I echoed several of my own sentiments for that dissatisfaction. I can't promise change in content, only what I will continue to write. And with my content, it's not a platform I will use to take pot shots at management, as tempting as it has been at times.

So, I understand several of you have issues with Hoven. I'm not saying you don't have a right to, as I'm sure your experiences and interpretations vary. I do truly want you all to have a better experience and opinion of him, because I care about him as I do all of you. I hope things eventually turn out for the better.

But there are plenty of things he doesn't say. So, again, your assertion he's there to parrot management is simply incorrect. I understand why you feel that way, and I'm honestly sorry you do, but it's simply incorrect.

 

[Trash Panda]

It's his reward for being a "company man"

In reality it should be Russell Morgan, Austin Stanovich,or Leib Menter from Twitter.
From here they should have grabbed @Ziggy Stardust , @King'sPawn or @Trash Panda but they take no prisoners. Especially Trash Panda


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