GWT: EPL - Matchweek 37 (Ft. MW 34)

[Savant]

I am neither happy nor sad. Mildly surprised that we performed better than what was expected, and hopeful that progress can continue to be made.

Well congrats on being whelmed then

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

I remember predicting Spurs to finish 5th/6th before the season. But after the great run to start the season, top four looked pretty likely. Safe to say that how it has ended has left a sour taste in my mouth.

I'd still stick with Ange, supposedly he wants a lot of squad turnover, but things better improve.

 

[Chimaera]

They need a lot of turnover. He's playing with a lot of guys who other managers got. But in some cases it does seem to be the "positive mentality" is outweighing results. Sure, they go after clubs and I guess that's good... but at some point that has to end up in results.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

I'd still stick with Ange, supposedly he wants a lot of squad turnover, but things better improve.

What do you mean still? He should be manager of the year.

Most media predictions had Spurs 8th or lower. Some had them in the bottom 6 of the league. He’s so outperformed expectations it’s ridiculous that people are thinking that he may not be the right guy?

Come on

 

[HeHateMeFrisbee]

They need a lot of turnover. He's playing with a lot of guys who other managers got. But in some cases it does seem to be the "positive mentality" is outweighing results. Sure, they go after clubs and I guess that's good... but at some point that has to end up in results.

I think it will, but as you said, there needs to be a lot of turnover there and he has to get guys that can, and maybe more importantly, WILL play his style of football.

 

[KJS14]

What do you mean still? He should be manager of the year.

Most media predictions had Spurs 8th or lower. Some had them in the bottom 6 of the league. He’s so outperformed expectations it’s ridiculous that people are thinking that he may not be the right guy?

Come on

Im not suggesting that he's not been good, and it definitely would be ridiculous to get rid of him after this year, but he's not manager of the year. He's maybe top 5.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Im not suggesting that he's not been good, and it definitely would be ridiculous to get rid of him after this year, but he's not manager of the year. He's maybe top 5.

I mean, it should be Emery, but my point stands that losing your clubs greatest player of all time after finishing 8th without a replacement and to do better is not appreciated because people are used to Spurs in the top 5.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

I mean, it should be Emery, but my point stands that losing your clubs greatest player of all time after finishing 8th without a replacement and to do better is not appreciated because people are used to Spurs in the top 5.

Jimmy Greaves left Spurs 54 years ago brother

but yea, my pre-season predictions (which we will revisit after Sunday to review how cartoonishly hilariously bad they were) had Spurs in 8-9.

The Athletic (and i think @hatterson echoed it in this thread somewhere) put it aptly the other day when they said that the only reason why the mood at Spurs is dour rather than celebratory is that Ange got the order of events backwards and started strong before dropping off rather than finishing strong. Pre-season, 5th would've been happily taken by every Spurs fan I know.

 

[Chimaera]

To be fair... he can't help it, but Chelsea being a dumpster fire for part of the season, United being about as exciting to watch as paint dry, and Newcastle not playing anywhere near where they were for last season (honestly, them not being able to kick on in the project might get Howe sacked/bonesawed) is as much of the reason Spurs are where they are more so than any particular magic of the manager.

I will concede that he's been playing inspired football at times and he's gotten more out of a few of the players than past managers could have. But there's a major gap between that and being manager of the year. Or even clearly being the guy for Spurs. I think personally the issue is more in the recruitment department than anything else, but without CL, that might be difficult.

 

[Jack Straw]

I think what Postecoglou has done goes beyond wins and losses. The atmosphere around the club at the tail end of last year was miserable. Conte trashed everything associated with Tottenham, the players, the board, the history... Postecoglou has changed that while implementing a style of football that Spurs fans have been begging for since Poch left.

What I think some people here may be mistaking for Spurs fans being overconfident early in the year was just the fans relishing this breath of fresh air after so much doubt and uncertainty (thinking back to the manager search... Nagelsmann? Slot?). Emery should be manager of the year imo but Ange should probably be top 3 (not even sure who the other would be offhand).

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

i don't think there's a huge case for anyone for manager of the year outside of emery, iraola, and sean dyche

 

[luiginb]

Remember how many coaches turned down Spurs as well. Every club had important injuries (maybe except Arsenal) but this season would have gone much better if the depth on defense would have been addressed before having to play Emerson Royal in central defense. Offensively, Maddison's injury and his lack of form after coming back also killed any UCL hopes. Richarlison and Werner, both better than expected, also missed significant time.

 

[hatterson]

i don't think there's a huge case for anyone for manager of the year outside of emery, iraola, and sean dyche

It’s Emery’s award and everyone else is just competing for runner up.

 

[Jack Straw]

So what was this about anyway?

 

[bluesfan94]

i don't think there's a huge case for anyone for manager of the year outside of emery, iraola, and sean dyche

I think the three best managerial performances are all from the same province in Spain.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

'Foundations are really fragile' at Tottenham - Ange Postecoglou

Tottenham Hotspur manager Ange Postecoglou says the "foundations are really fragile" at the club after Tuesday's defeat by Manchester City ended their hopes of Champions League football.

www.bbc.com

"The foundations are really fragile," the Australian said. "The last 48 hours have shown me that.

"It's inside the club, outside the club. Outside, inside, everywhere. It's been an interesting exercise. It's just my observations, mate."

 

[Chimaera]

It’s Emery’s award and everyone else is just competing for runner up.

He won't... and they haven't been at their best with having the best side... but Pep's still got a strong case any year.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

I think the three best managerial performances are all from the same province in Spain.

in europe? sure, absolutely, because Alonso is number 1

in the PL? ehhhhhhh

 

[S E P H]

I'd still stick with Ange

Like what other options would you lot have done? There are none. He's the only one who's actually put a solid foundation this year both a bit on the pitch, but more importantly in the public light.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I always felt Ange very naive in his playstyle which kind of reminded Klopp in his first season at LFC. He will have to target players this offseason that can keep up with the way he wants to play to get success.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

C'mon Chelsea!!!

 

[gary69]

Did you see that Chelsea bench, wow! Imagine if they had that level and amount of players available most of the season.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Did you see that Chelsea bench, wow! Imagine if they had that level and amount of players available most of the season.

The contrast with the bench against Spurs just a month ago is pretty nuts

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Groß moving the ball a few yards forward and then bitching that the wall is too close and refusing to take the kick is…. a choice….

Gallagoat to the rescue

Apparently "hit the deck whenever possible" is official Brighton policy today, this is insanity

 

[Power Man]

The Brighton-Chelsea game is entertaining so far