Speculation: Armchair GM 2023-24 Season. If we can't say "Rebuild" what do we call it?

[HighLifeMan]

Yeah Backlund and Huberdeau were good together last year yet haven't seen the ice once this year.

Backlund is our best transition center... It only makes sense. Ruzicka and Lindholm had chemistry last year.

Huberdeau - Backlund - Coronato
Ruzicka - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dube - Kadri - Coleman
Greer - Sharangovich - Duehr

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

Yeah Backlund and Huberdeau were good together last year yet haven't seen the ice once this year.

Backlund is our best transition center... It only makes sense. Ruzicka and Lindholm had chemistry last year.

Huberdeau - Backlund - Coronato
Ruzicka - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dube - Kadri - Coleman
Greer - Sharangovich - Duehr

Honestly, IMO, this is the best we can do with what we have.

 

[Lunatik]

Yeah Backlund and Huberdeau were good together last year yet haven't seen the ice once this year.

Backlund is our best transition center... It only makes sense. Ruzicka and Lindholm had chemistry last year.

Huberdeau - Backlund - Coronato
Ruzicka - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dube - Kadri - Coleman
Greer - Sharangovich - Duehr

Coronato shouldn't be on the top line. I love the kid, but he's barely treading water and should probably be in the AHL getting top line minutes and a chance to dominate.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

On the plus side of that "sell Monahan at all costs because we just signed Kadri and are now significantly over the cap and have absolutely no leverage" trade is that it has tied up all 4 of our 1st round picks for the next 3 years eliminating Conroy's ability to trade a 1st to try and fix this crappy team

I'm torn between two responses. So I shall present both:

Flames Fans: "The Doug Gilmour trade to Toronto was the worst trade in franchise history"
Brad Treliving: "Hold my pizza."

- or -

 

[DFF]

It’s crazy at one point people thought Treliving was a wizard

The guy is as good a GM as he was a player

He practically ruined the team beyond repair

 

[Zirakzigil]

Lindy only really looks good when he doesn't have to carry the puck.
Huberdeau-Backlund-Coronato
Mangi-Lindy-Dube
Ruzicka-Kadri-Coleman

This. Hube Backs Coronato looked great in the preseason and Backs seems to elevate whoever he plays with. That line doesnt have to be the "top" line. Just send them out for offensive zone faceoffs and let them roll.

 

[Sparky93]

This. Hube Backs Coronato looked great in the preseason and Backs seems to elevate whoever he plays with. That line doesnt have to be the "top" line. Just send them out for offensive zone faceoffs and let them roll.

Seems pretty simple. We have to get our $10 million man going and then you worry about the rest of the roster.

 

[NinjaTurtle]

Yeah Backlund and Huberdeau were good together last year yet haven't seen the ice once this year.

Backlund is our best transition center... It only makes sense. Ruzicka and Lindholm had chemistry last year.

Huberdeau - Backlund - Coronato
Ruzicka - Lindholm - Mangiapane
Dube - Kadri - Coleman
Greer - Sharangovich - Duehr

I’d be open to trying this line up.

Maybe switch Duehr and Coleman, so Kadri’s line can be high energy chaos and Rango’s line could be a little more subdued and defensive.

 

[Lunatik]

I'd like to try...

Huberdeau - Backlund - Lindholm
Ruzicka - Kadri - Mangiapane
Coleman - Dube - Coronato
Greer - Sharangovich - Duehr

Both Huby and Lindy have the same issue, they need a puck carrier to play with.

 

[Lunatik]

I'm torn between two responses. So I shall present both:



- or -

The trade is what it is, it's not getting better or worse. I truly don't believe Monahan was going to re-sign here, he's talked about a fresh start. So beyond last year, what Monahan does is irrelevant.

 

[JPeeper]

Oesterle in for Gilbert is bs, Gilbert has actually been a quiet 3rd pairing guy, which is good. Oesterle is bad every second shift. Oesterle in means we tanking.

 

[Lunatik]

Oesterle in for Gilbert is bs, Gilbert has actually been a quiet 3rd pairing guy, which is good. Oesterle is bad every second shift. Oesterle in means we tanking.

Where are you seeing this? In practice today Oesterle was on the "4th" pairing with Andersson

 

[deleted user]

Alright. I've come down off the ledge. I don't know why I got so triggered and just kinda fell into full on doom/gloom mode. It does happen to me from time to time, though.

Apologies for some of the posts I made here on our board and the negativity I was shooting off on the outside threads here on HF.

Trying to regroup myself for the Heritage Classic. I don't want to see anything but a Flames victory but if that's not in the cards I'm going to try and not freak out. I don't wanna be that kinda poster.

GFG and screw Edmonton.

 

[JPeeper]

Where are you seeing this? In practice today Oesterle was on the "4th" pairing with Andersson

Agree with these lines. Huberdeau doesn't work with Lindholm. It took a staff of hockey experts far too long ffs.

Must have changed it today, which is good.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Boston traded a 1st and two 2nds for Lindholm. Can the Flames get the same return or similar if they traded Hanifin?

 

[DFF]

Boston traded a 1st and two 2nds for Lindholm. Can the Flames get the same return or similar if they traded Hanifin?

Probably a low 1st plus some mid range prospects or picks at the TDL

Although I would say Lindholm is a bit better

 

[Sparky93]

Probably a low 1st plus some mid range prospects or picks at the TDL

Although I would say Lindholm is a bit better

Agreed, he's just too vanilla to really be appreciated. Same mold as Bouwmeester, or even Tanev, to an extent. Not good enough offensively to be the scoring side of a top pairing and not physical/tough enough to be coveted as the defensive partner to a primary, pure offense player. Most teams will be looking at him as second pairing. Definitely not a player to build around but a nice addition to any cup run.

 

[Siignal]

I'll take one Celebrini with my martini please.

 

[deleted user]

I'll take one Celebrini with my martini please.

I dare to dream.

 

[Siignal]

I dare to dream.

Even with a lottery-protected pick next year, it would be better to tank this year than next especially if we need to blow up the team at the trade deadline.

 

[badi]

Really feel like Hanifin is gonna be traded soon ...
This team needs a big trade asap

 

[Kranix]

Coronato shouldn't be on the top line. I love the kid, but he's barely treading water and should probably be in the AHL getting top line minutes and a chance to dominate.

I have to disagree on that one. He's been the best Flame by most offensive metrics the last few game, and has the most lethal shot on the team. Huberdeau-Backlund-Coronato is the best option at this point for a top line.

 

[deleted user]

Eh. I love Coronato and definitely think he's going to be awesome going forward. I do see him struggling out there, but who isn't I guess..

The blender experiment can't go on forever. It'll be interesting to see where he lands full-time this season.

 

[Kranix]

5v5, the team is 4th in CF, 9th in CF%, 31st in S% and SV%, 6th in SCF, and HDCF. Still probably need to be setting up plays for shots in better position. But they will do better soon. They're only shooting 5%, 5v5. That has to go up. If it doesn't..they truly are a group of stone-hands plugs

 

[Volica]

5v5, the team is 4th in CF, 9th in CF%, 31st in S% and SV%, 6th in SCF, and HDCF. Still probably need to be setting up plays for shots in better position. But they will do better soon. They're only shooting 5%, 5v5. That has to go up. If it doesn't..they truly are a group of stone-hands plugs

You got about 9 games to piece it together.
4-5 doesn't get you there.
6-3 gets you back to level.

Anything below 6-3 should just be fire-sale to be perfectly honest. Anything not bolted down should be dumped.