Edmonton, Alberta - Air Quality Health Index (AQHI) - Environment Canada
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The Air Quality index is still at 10+ today and tomorrow. So annoying.....
Winter has now become the more tolerable of seasons in EdmontonEdmonton, Alberta - Air Quality Health Index (AQHI) - Environment Canada
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The Air Quality index is still at 10+ today and tomorrow. So annoying.....
I dunno why the going down the rabbit hole was even allowed to occur.
Sunday was much better in our area after some sprinklings.Edmonton, Alberta - Air Quality Health Index (AQHI) - Environment Canada
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The Air Quality index is still at 10+ today and tomorrow. So annoying.....
The Global newscast last night was hilarious. When they're not talking about potential drought their talking about floods. When they're not talking about fires they're talking about global warming. Fully 80% of the telecast was some hyped up fear mongering.
So that we have two little rain, and too much rain, and blame global warming for catastrophe that are all imminent.
Then whenever they do the drought angle they talk to some cattle farmer in southern Alberta that is in what has always been a semi-arid region unlike Central or Northern Alberta which is a different biosphere and is NOT experiencing drought of any kind. Yet the Edmonton news constantly with this drought and fires forecasts while it just keeps raining and raining.
Well, the narratives would shift somewhat.My favourite is reading the contention that had people's preferred political party been elected, that these weather events magically would not be occurring.
This isn't the place to get into a climate change discussion, but in terms of the affects of this years weather, a rainy May isn't fixing the drought problem. Not for the farmers, or for our wildfire situation. Drought conditions and flooding can happen simultaneously, because the biggest issue with drought conditions is the depletion of the water table, not what is happening on the surface.The Global newscast last night was hilarious. When they're not talking about potential drought their talking about floods. When they're not talking about fires they're talking about global warming. Fully 80% of the telecast was some hyped up fear mongering.
So that we have two little rain, and too much rain, and blame global warming for catastrophe that are all imminent.
Then whenever they do the drought angle they talk to some cattle farmer in southern Alberta that is in what has always been a semi-arid region unlike Central or Northern Alberta which is a different biosphere and is NOT experiencing drought of any kind. Yet the Edmonton news constantly with this drought and fires forecasts while it just keeps raining and raining.
The trouble is the influenced media are reporting fairly disingenuously on drought in this province. For instance going to Southern Alberta, which is semiarid domain and has been throughout recorded history, and reporting on the dry conditions there, which has usually been dry. Even Calgary and Medicine Hat and much of Southern Alberta east of foothills is semi-arid. This has always been the classification.This isn't the place to get into a climate change discussion, but in terms of the affects of this years weather, a rainy May isn't fixing the drought problem. Not for the farmers, or for our wildfire situation. Drought conditions and flooding can happen simultaneously, because the biggest issue with drought conditions is the depletion of the water table, not what is happening on the surface.
There are plenty of places to discuss it. I wish we could post about the news on Facebook again, our dummy PM strikes again with his rules around funding for Canadian media, but there are still tons of places to go to discuss it. Not as many online as there used to be, but there are places. The biggest issue to me, is that when people find the places that support their not-always-factual views, it turns into an echo chamber, so they feel that they are this massive group who has figured it out, and the "man" has the rest of us fooled. Like a group of 25 people with no hobbies and nothing important to do have the "real" answers, ha ha.The trouble is the influenced media are reporting fairly disingenuously on Drought. For instance going to Southern Alberta, which is semiarid domain and has been throughout recorded history, and reporting on the dry conditions there, which has usually been dry. Even Calgary and Medicine Hat and much of Southern Alberta east of foothills is semi-arid. This has always been the classification.
Meanwhile Northern Alberta is a much different biosphere, Northern Boreal. The Edmonton region used to sit on the edge of that Boreal forest and we still get the fertile loam soil benefit of it. Edmonton region changing somewhat but not in recent groundwater changes due to climate change. Water table changes can often be due to water USAGE.
Finally, the trouble is that theres no place to get into this discussion. Increasingly we live in a world where doctrine is even being legislated or considered, thus prohibiting discussion.
Give me a pm if you will on places where such a discussion can actually be had.There are plenty of places to discuss it. I wish we could post about the news on Facebook again, our dummy PM strikes again with his rules around funding for Canadian media, but there are still tons of places to go to discuss it. Not as many online as there used to be, but there are places. The biggest issue to me, is that when people find the places that support their not-always-factual views, it turns into an echo chamber, so they feel that they are this massive group who has figured it out, and the "man" has the rest of us fooled. Like a group of 25 people with no hobbies and nothing important to do have the "real" answers, ha ha.
You better not head to such echo chambers as r/alberta then. Climate hysteria or the highway there.The biggest issue to me, is that when people find the places that support their not-always-factual views, it turns into an echo chamber, so they feel that they are this massive group who has figured it out, and the "man" has the rest of us fooled. Like a group of 25 people with no hobbies and nothing important to do have the "real" answers, ha ha.
Influenced media? Disingenuous? Doctrine is even being legislated or considered?The trouble is the influenced media are reporting fairly disingenuously on drought in this province. For instance going to Southern Alberta, which is semiarid domain and has been throughout recorded history, and reporting on the dry conditions there, which has usually been dry. Even Calgary and Medicine Hat and much of Southern Alberta east of foothills is semi-arid. This has always been the classification.
Meanwhile Northern Alberta is a much different biosphere, Northern Boreal. The Edmonton region used to sit on the edge of that Boreal forest and we still get the fertile loam soil benefit of it. Edmonton region changing somewhat but not in recent groundwater changes due to climate change. Water table changes can often be due to water USAGE.
Finally, the trouble is that theres no place to get into this discussion. Increasingly we live in a world where doctrine is even being legislated or considered, thus prohibiting discussion.
Yeah, HF Boards is where the climate experts reside.You better not head to such echo chambers as r/alberta then. Climate hysteria or the highway there.
The history of Science is it being co-opted by external forces or ignorant of innovation and better founded theories. People with head in sand tendency to say "I'll listen to the established Science would have shouted out Charles Darwin, Galileo, and John Snow. Every one of these being reviled and mocked by their Scientific Peers of the times.Influenced media? Disingenuous? Doctrine is even being legislated or considered?
Yeah, again, I prefer to listen to, ya know, actual scientists, as opposed to some guy on a message board.
Yeah, HF Boards is where the climate experts reside.
Thanks for this history lesson. But the bolded is kinda what science is, so its hardly a revelation (Scientists will actually let you in on that little secret).The history of Science is it being co-opted by external forces or ignorant of innovation and better founded theories. People with head in sand tendency to say "I'll listen to the established Science would have shouted out Charles Darwin, Galileo, and John Snow. Every one of these being reviled and mocked by their Scientific Peers of the times.
Indeed historically the advancement of Science, when it occurs, is often at odds with the established beliefs of Science or Scientists of the times which often becomes its own resistant doctrine. Scientific knowledge is best viewed as incomplete.
Sorry then that I have Science degrees and a lifelong passion in knowledge and Science.Thanks for this history lesson.
I kinda like to listen to those whose life's work is to study science. As opposed to those with a political agenda (amazingly they go hand in hand often). Or those on the grift. Or those on a hockey message board.
Kinda reminds me as the ozone layer discussion. Or acid rain.
He was complaining concerning echo chambers. I gave him an example of one. Never claimed anyone was an expert.Yeah, HF Boards is where the climate experts reside.
Yeah, OK Replacement. You bring in this climate denialism garbage (again) on a topic that the it has been made abundantly clear that its not allowed to go down that path, one way or another. And you whine when called on it.ps Barrsy, I had to look it up is formerly "Daryls Friend" is formerly "Sammy"
Just posting that without comment.
Sure. Thats known. I haven't disguised it at all.Yeah, OK Replacement.
There is a difference between "I will listen to scientists and what we know" and "I'll listen to conspiracy theorists based on some loosely tied coincidences", which is where most scientific misinformation is peddled from. It isn't a bad thing to listen to the experts, and someone who ignores the experts because of some random reasons they found after falling in a rabbit hole on YouTube is only spreading disinformation.The history of Science is it being co-opted by external forces or ignorant of innovation and better founded theories. People with head in sand tendency to say "I'll listen to the established Science would have shouted out Charles Darwin, Galileo, and John Snow. Every one of these being reviled and mocked by their Scientific Peers of the times.
Indeed historically the advancement of Science, when it occurs, is often at odds with the established beliefs of Science or Scientists of the times which often becomes its own resistant doctrine. Scientific knowledge is best viewed as incomplete.
Suffice here to say I obtain zero of my information from youtube, podcasts or the like and share concerns with such sources. See DM.There is a difference between "I will listen to scientists and what we know" and "I'll listen to conspiracy theorists based on some loosely tied coincidences", which is where most scientific misinformation is peddled from. It isn't a bad thing to listen to the experts, and someone who ignores the experts because of some random reasons they found after falling in a rabbit hole on YouTube is only spreading disinformation.
EDIT - if you don't mind me asking, what discipline is your Science degree in?
I think it's because it was so dry (anecdotally it sure felt like it) over the winter. I know the government was getting a headstart on potential water leasing.Its odd this year that all I hear about is fires and drought and yet its been one of the wettest springs. Biggest challenge this year in gardening was trying to find a time where our elevated, drained plots are even dry. Hard to even dig or plant its been so wet. Now the garden is in monsoon condition again with too much water.
PseudoThere is a difference between "I will listen to scientists and what we know" and "I'll listen to conspiracy theorists based on some loosely tied coincidences", which is where most scientific misinformation is peddled from. It isn't a bad thing to listen to the experts, and someone who ignores the experts because of some random reasons they found after falling in a rabbit hole on YouTube is only spreading disinformation.
EDIT - if you don't mind me asking, what discipline is your Science degree in?
I'll take the blame for this. Every time I have been in Edmonton for the past several years the weather has taken a turn for the worst.Ok it can stop raining anytime now