Post-Game Talk: WCSF GM 4 | Oilers def. Canucks 3-2 (Garland, Joshua) | Thaaaaaaat sucked.

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Here's the most disturbing stat in a while:

Pettersson has 6 goals in his last 40 games, dating back to February 29th.

 

[mossey3535]

Karlsson over Mikheyev all day.

Maybe after another off-season of working on his wheels. The spirit is willing but the wheels are slow. ALso not a good stylistic fit against the Oilers or even the Preds, both teams can wheel if they need to.

 

[Slapshot_11]

If cole didn't exist its 3-1 or 4-0

 

[timw33]

Respectfully, do people really think that any of those changes outside of Soucy matter?

We didn't lose this because of guys like Lafferty or Aman.

We got outplayed for 50 minutes.

Garland's line was basically the only line to do anything 5-on-5.

Were there players who contributed nothing? Absolutely. Should our playoff hopes hinge on 4th liners making an impact? Probably not.

I don’t disagree at all but the guys that are out there to give energy, speed, and forecheck are just doing absolutely nothing right now too and you have to try and optimize the margins too.

Obviously we aren’t going anywhere without the stars showing up, will not debate that, but some actual energy needed too.

 

[SillyRabbit]

Here's the most disturbing stat in a while:

Pettersson has 6 goals in his last 40 games, dating back to February 29th.

But he won a key faceoff for us!!!!

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I don’t think pickard starts game 5. He is Spencer Martinesque, has one good game, then 5 bad ones

Still might give you a better chance than Skinner, who is putting up a historically bad playoff performance.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

There was a shift where Darnell Nurse came up the ice and Ian Cole took seven months to turn around.

 

[Slapshot_11]

Here's the most disturbing stat in a while:

Pettersson has 6 goals in his last 40 games, dating back to February 29th.

11.6 for 12 goals

 

[mossey3535]

Still might give you a better chance than Skinner, who is putting up a historically bad playoff performance.

Psychologically getting any effort whatsoever from Pickard is easier to deal with than having a guy like Skinner who is a lot more talented, constantly shit the bed.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Oilers have completely solved our entry on the PP.

They swarm the puck carrier and constantly force turnovers.

The other players need to be in a much better position to receive passes if the Oilers are going to blitz the puck carrier.

What's stopping the team from dumping it in and overloading?

 

[EpochLink]

Cole needs to sit and Hronek needs to play better in game 5.

 

[crazychimp]

I don’t think pickard starts game 5. He is Spencer Martinesque, has one good game, then 5 bad ones

It’s his net to lose at this point.

 

[WiLBoY]

lol people in here actually thinking it's tocchet's strategy to not play for 40 minutes. Canucks simply got outplayed at the start and couldn't match their energy

 

[BimJenning]

Honestly, I'm just happy to watch playoff hockey and actually be in it. Miles ahead of the wild card spot I was expecting us to be in (and lose in).

Edmonton looks very beatable. Really killed off of a few mistakes (Juulsen, non-clearing attempt in the final minute), despite looking pretty bad for most of the game. I'm not sure why Tocchet is so allergic to changing the forward line. We did not come out to play today, so the result is all the more disappointing to have it slip away like that.

You can't have AHL/4th line quality linemates for Petey in the top 6. The guy is just struggling too hard to expect him to do that. Just not sure of the attachment to Mikheyev/Pete. Is it defensive play? If you trust them that much, and want to just want them to tread water, at least try and have them kill time against McJesus/Drai and let Miller/Boeser try and produce, given how pourous the offense has looked outside of Lindholm, Garland, and Joshua. I just don't see what Mikheyev (or anyone else they've tried on that line, for that matter) have really done so far (at least Pete is making some good passes that Mikheyev & Hoglander have flubbed, and defensive plays here & there). Rather give Lindholm a try centering Pettersson and reunite Blueger with Joshua & Garland at this point. You're not going to win with him playing so poorly offensively.

Hronek has not impressed me at all these playoffs, but that last goal is not on him. On the plus side, you would think this playoffs has definitely cemented his value into the 6-6.5M range. Hughes is not playing awful or anything, but he's looking gassed out there. Why they were still playing him so much down the stretch is really questionable.

 

[Angry Little Elf]

Exactly like the the NJ game earlier this year

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Mikheyev should be on the fourth line. He’s hustling fine enough, but he does zero offensively. Put him on a line where his job is just to get the puck out of his end.

Have to think Petey and Hronek are two of the guys Tocchet is referring to - although I again wonder what one expects when Petey is paired with the likes of Lafferty and Mikheyev. Yes, he should be able to drive play on his own, but come on.

Hronek has just been terrible.

But I don’t think anyone’s having a rougher series than Cole. It’s like he’s opened a tomb and been slapped with an ancient Egyptian curse.

 

[Leif Rohlin]

What's stopping the team from dumping it in and overloading?

They'd have to win a puck battle and that's too much effort.

 

[valkynax]

Valky, some posters are just attention seekers who knows what buttons to push. Ignoring them is the best antidote.

Haha, I am a firm believer of the philosophy that EVERYONE has something useful to say, and I respect their opinions even if I don't agree with them or if I don't like the poster. As such I think I am obligated to keep an open mind and give every post a chance. Of course, I only apply this to myself, I don't and never will think anyone else should follow this because people are different. This is why my block list is blank. Even if I don't agree with the vast majority of the stuff from someone like logan5, or PoM, I still wouldn't add them to block list.

Of course this means I get to look like a moron replying to potential trolling posts some times (or maybe LOTS of times), but you know, I'll live with that myself.

 

[EpochLink]

Start game 5 strong, match the energy of the crowd

 

[arttk]

Here's the most disturbing stat in a while:

Pettersson has 6 goals in his last 40 games, dating back to February 29th.

So right around when we traded away Kuz

 

[crazychimp]

I think at this point it goes without saying Soucy/Myers are the ones you want out there in the final minutes of a tied game or a one goal game. Glad he’ll be back in on the next one.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Anyway - not getting too low about this. Even if we drop the next two, the series and the season are already a smashing success. We showed all the pundits that we weren’t just going out in 3 to the MIGHTY OIL.

But I still think we can take this series. With how many people were writing the Canucks off before this one, and without Demko, how many of us would have been happy to hear we’d be at 2-2 after 4 games?

Some things to polish up for sure, and some guys who need to step up - Game 5 will be real interesting.

 

[timw33]

I think you have to go Hog Petey Lindholm and put Blueger with Joshua Garland, use last change to get the matchups you want.

 

[NoShowWilly]

Here's the most disturbing stat in a while:

Pettersson has 6 goals in his last 40 games, dating back to February 29th.

I just don't get the difference in his legs. He used to look above average speed wise and would find his way around guys. He looks like a young child trying to get around his dad these days. It isn't happening.

They are hiding something. I dont know enough about this stuff but after seeing mikhayev play on a f***ed leg last year, my mind just keeps thinking it ia the same issue.

 

[valkynax]

Mikheyev should be on the fourth line. He’s hustling fine enough, but he does zero offensively. Put him on a line where his job is just to get the puck out of his end.

Have to think Petey and Hronek are two of the guys Tocchet is referring to - although I again wonder what one expects when Petey is paired with the likes of Lafferty and Mikheyev. Yes, he should be able to drive play on his own, but come on.

Hronek has just been terrible.

But I don’t think anyone’s having a rougher series than Cole. It’s like he’s opened a tomb and been slapped with an ancient Egyptian curse.