Only room for one rooster in the henhouse.Btw Rutherford is no longer the gm. It’s Alvin that makes trades.
*John Tortorella accredited
Only room for one rooster in the henhouse.Btw Rutherford is no longer the gm. It’s Alvin that makes trades.
Sure, but what’s the asking price?Flames seem like a natural fit. Lindholm and a slightly used Tanev?
Sure, but what’s the asking price?
Vancouver has some very good prospects that aren't Lekk/Willander. Blue chip guys don't get moved for rentals, even though fans of seller demand them every trade deadline.Well considering the Canucks two only real value pieces are apparently off limits, I don't think it's a realistic scenario.
The current 32nd overall pick and a guys like Podkolzin aren't going to tip the scales in a Lindholm+Tanev deal..
Most be cooking one hell of a slow cooked meal
Willander no Lekkerimakki for an extended Lindholm or Guentzel all day.Not giving up Willander or Lekk.
1st, Brzustewicz, Podkolzin, and Myers.
With a hand who knows maybe longer maybe we pull a Vegas?Soucy gone 5 weeks, damn
Looks like we’re looking for a defenceman also now
The issue is that your premise is based on some assumptions that aren’t necessarily true such as:Willander no Lekkerimakki for an extended Lindholm or Guentzel all day.
Lekkerimakki may very well end up being a 40 goal scorer 3-4 years from now, while a guy like Jake or Lindholm can do that now with our core entering its peak.
This is how teams take the next step by using assets to plug immediate holes with players we hope that prospect might become.
Podkolzin and Raty are much closer and can play bottom six roles for league minimum allowing us to re-sign vets. Willander plays a premium position and is way ahead of schedule and is now getting all the top tough minutes. For context he's a +13 tops on his team with 19 points I think? His partner Hutson older by a year and much more experienced at D has 28 points yet has the worst plus minus on the team.
Don't get me wrong I'm not moving him for a rental but for either of those guys long-term part of this core could be one of the final pieces.
Vancouver has some very good prospects that aren't Lekk/Willander. Blue chip guys don't get moved for rentals, even though fans of seller demand them every trade deadline.
Horvat returned a 1st, Raty and Beauvillier while scoring about 3x the goals Lindholm has this year. Expecting a top 30 prospect is going to leave you dissapointed.
Time will tell though!
I doubt you’ll get a prospect like Lekk or Willander for those two. Calgary is probably best off trying to get the highest possible pick for Lindholm like the Canucks did by finding a team that wants to re-sign him.Well considering the Canucks two only real value pieces are apparently off limits, I don't think it's a realistic scenario.
The current 32nd overall pick and a guys like Podkolzin aren't going to tip the scales in a Lindholm+Tanev deal..
It’s not E5. We are safe.
Eklund says something big is imminent!
...so all quiet on the Western Front.
According to who? Random flames fan #4 on HFBoards?I'd disagree that they have "very good" prospects outside of those two.
Additionally - the pick traded for Horvat was 12th overall at the time of deal, and in a much better draft class. It ended up being ASP whom is very comparable in value to Wallinder and Lekk. Even further to that - the poster I responded to wanted Tanev in the deal as well whom will have a large market himself at the deadline.
I understand if the Canucks want to hold on to those two prospects, but if that's the case, then the dream of adding both Lindholm and Tanev is dead on arrival.
honestly thats way too much. Calgary isn't getting 4 futures + Myers who could be flipped for another pick and is very valuable to the Canucks currently.Very tempting for VAN to go all-in, despite the risks...
I feel like Tanev is too much $ for too little reward to target, even if Myers is going back (and being flipped by CGY for futures).
I'd say a reasonable deal would be Lindholm (no retention) for '24 1st, '25 2nd, (Raty or Podkolzin), Brustewicz, and Myers (to be flipped)
CGY fans probably hate it, but that's more realistic IMHO, considering Lindholm's drop in play this season, and being a rental. I'm more curious to hear from WPG, BOS and COL fans if any of those teams would realistically beat that offer.
If Lindholm was dealt to VAN with an extension at max $8M/per, then I think the deal should become something like '24 1st, Lekkerimaki, Raty or Podkolzin, Myers. VAN should be able to find a way to make that work long term...
Another possibility that I think would be intriguing for VAN would be a deal around Hayton, something like this:
Hayton + Zucker for '24 1st, Kuzmenko, Raty or Podkolzin, and Suter
or
Hayton (extended), Zucker, and Dumba for '24 1st, '25 2nd, Podkolzin, Kuzmenko, Myers, Brustewicz
The 2nd one is almost certainly too large to be realistic, but Hayton seems like a very desirable piece for the 2C slot who should not break the bank on his next contract, and should be healthy for this year's playoffs. Not sure if ARZ fans would like either deal, but there you go?
Maybe not "very good" but good enough to play at the deadline. I don't how the team ranks its guys but in no particular order after Willander and Lekk Vancouver has: Podkolzin, Raty, Pettersson, Brzustewicz, and maybe one or two more, plus their own draft picks, that are notable enough to be deadline trade chips.I'd disagree that they have "very good" prospects outside of those two.
Additionally - the pick traded for Horvat was 12th overall at the time of deal, and in a much better draft class. It ended up being ASP whom is very comparable in value to Wallinder and Lekk. Even further to that - the poster I responded to wanted Tanev in the deal as well whom will have a large market himself at the deadline.
I understand if the Canucks want to hold on to those two prospects, but if that's the case, then the dream of adding both Lindholm and Tanev is dead on arrival.
Is that guy still surviving off his one connection to Philly?It’s not E5. We are safe.
We already have HoglanderMust be in the slower cooker. Maybe some pulled pork?
Raty is only 20 and having a good development year. Very much still a top six C prospect.Well considering the Canucks two only real value pieces are apparently off limits, I don't think it's a realistic scenario.
The current 32nd overall pick and a guys like Podkolzin aren't going to tip the scales in a Lindholm+Tanev deal..
Probably, since they are not related.am i the only one that thinks, Lindhohm is holding out to join his brother in Boston?
former selke runner up Lindholm is like the perfect replacement for recently retired Patrix Bergeron who was king of Selkes. Lindholm is a solid 2 way player like Bergeron.
I don't think Vancouver can trade for him due to cap and we need to dump a high-priced player ourselves.