Player Discussion Tocchet What Is/How He Doing?

credulous

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arizona are the only team in the league with travel comparable to vancouver. this isn't new to tocchet
 

Billy Kvcmu

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No just watching another eastern guy wrapping his head around the travel and being tired. He is mentioning playing tired and playoff teams play through it a lot. I think it took him by surprise.

Imagine if the team does make the playoffs and have to play Vegas 7 games in 12 days, play, travel, day off, play, travel, day off repeat. OR LA? They will have more travel in one series than an eastern team like Boston through the whole playoffs
Well in the playoffs the travel distance evens out over a series
 

theguardianII

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Well in the playoffs the travel distance evens out over a series
Only for the two teams playing against each other.

When Vancouver played Boston they had over ten times the travel miles and all those hours in a plane dehydrate people. People don't rehydrate that quickly especially if exposed often.

That and time zones, Canucks played in three different one, Boston in one until the last series.
 

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Are Beau ,PDG, or Aman missing their defensive assignments..?..Cheating on the back check.?..Lacking effort...Thats what puts you in the press box.

We won against the Kraken..Do you think that Kuz would have been the difference maker against SJS ..Judging by his recent play, he would have been a non factor.

I' m sure he'll be back in the lineup next game.

Typically when you want to send a message to an important top-6 player you bench him for a couple shifts or perhaps a period. A full scratching definitely would have done the job.

If you think any of those 3 players are more important to team success I don't know what to tell you except that it's a completely asinine notion.

Do you think that Kuz would have been the difference maker against SJS ..Judging by his recent play, he would have been a non factor.

Considering we lost by 1 goal and the lack of ability to finish plays (which is a strength of Kuzmenko's outside of his cold streak) cost us the game against an at best average goalie, perhaps. But we'll never know :P
 

Pastor Of Muppetz

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Typically when you want to send a message to an important top-6 player you bench him for a couple shifts or perhaps a period. A full scratching definitely would have done the job.

If you think any of those 3 players are more important to team success I don't know what to tell you except that it's a completely asinine notion.



Considering we lost by 1 goal and the lack of ability to finish plays (which is a strength of Kuzmenko's outside of his cold streak) cost us the game against an at best average goalie, perhaps. But we'll never know :P
This isn’t the 39 goal scorer from last season..This is the player that has 3 goals at the quarter mark of this season..He’s miles away from being a finisher this season ..You’ll probably have better luck with Rafferty

If you’re not scoring,you better not be a liability which Kuzmenko has been.

Aman,PDG,and Beau don’t play on the top line or PP1..they have different roles on the team than Kuzmenko

Tocchet knows when a guy is dogging it.
 
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BluesyShoes

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Thing with Kuzmenko is you can't just drop him down to the third or fourth line. I think it was equal parts Kuzy not executing the system play, and the coaching staff wanting to see more detailed players on Pettersson's line. It is hard to assess the needs of that line when one player isn't executing, and Petey's line desperately needs a new dimension added to be competitive against the top end teams in the league. They haven't looked very good. Kuzy will be back, and hopefully he comes back with some fire and some more instruction on what he needs to do to fulfill his assignment. He can definitely give more. If he doesn't figure it out and struggles with the coaching, we will probably see a deal at some point to add a top six guy that fits what they are looking for. I could see them pursuing Jason Zucker for a short term fix.
 

vadim sharifijanov

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From my years of following this franchise, he may very well be my all time favorite 'Nucks coach besides Pat Quinn.

unquestionably

my list goes

quinn
tocchet
boudreau
av
mccammon
crawford
torts
ley
renney
green
willie
hitler

but a lot of low cards in that hand. after the top three i openly dislike the rest at least a little
 
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VanJack

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Tocchet has pleaded, cajoled and squeezed just about all he can out of this roster of players.....now it's only a question of how much gas the players have left in the tank.

It's up to the players now. Tocchet will have the last change in the line matchups at home, but that's really about 'it' at this point in the season.
 

Bertuzzzi44

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The Canucks are a 100+ point division winning team that went for it and acquired Lindholm & Zadorov for a deep playoff run, being up 3-2 with home ice advantage against a flawed opponent that seriously lacks depth, sound defence and good goaltending would be a colossal failure to think otherwise is just coping.
 

mossey3535

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System and regular system buy in has been great.

Line matching pretty good.

Timeouts not good, we could have used one tonight to stem the bleeding.

Lineup and lines changing mediocre, he did a good job changing it up for game 5 and it sparked the team but it wasn't enough in game 6.

General reading of who is going and adjusting ice time accordingly has been bad. E.g., not laying off millers ice time in that one game where he sucked. Letting Mik boat anchor a whole line for 1.75 playoff series.

PK great, PP started off promising with movement base but ended up terrible.

In-game tactical adjustments like adjusting to Nashville and now Oilers heavy forecheck, non-existent.
 

Hollywood Burrows

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It's funny to imagine this sleazy, degenerate gambler/charisma void in his shitty suit and compare him to, say, Jurgen Klopp. NHL coaches are such boring assholes. Just really not compelling or interesting people, at all. Anyway Jurgen Klopp is sick. He should coach the canucks next.
 
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Bertuzzzi44

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Up 3-2 in a series with home ice advantage, team with full roster (no injuries on the blue line or at forward), going up against a rookie coach with less coaching experience. Game 7 result on home ice is what Tocchet will be judged on.
 

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Tocchet has pleaded, cajoled and squeezed just about all he can out of this roster of players.....now it's only a question of how much gas the players have left in the tank.
Coaches have had a role in figuring out that dreadful power play. Other than health – which I suspect actually is the main thing – I don’t know what else has been so different to make it this useless.
 
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arttk

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System and regular system buy in has been great.

Line matching pretty good.

Timeouts not good, we could have used one tonight to stem the bleeding.

Lineup and lines changing mediocre, he did a good job changing it up for game 5 and it sparked the team but it wasn't enough in game 6.

General reading of who is going and adjusting ice time accordingly has been bad. E.g., not laying off millers ice time in that one game where he sucked. Letting Mik boat anchor a whole line for 1.75 playoff series.

PK great, PP started off promising with movement base but ended up terrible.

In-game tactical adjustments like adjusting to Nashville and now Oilers heavy forecheck, non-existent.
Really worried about the fact we played Hughes 26min last night…
 
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mossey3535

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He used the timeout right before the 5-on-3 to rest PP1. It was the right call even though they couldn't execute.
Mea culpa, I was watching in a bar and the sound was off.

Coaches have had a role in figuring out that dreadful power play. Other than health – which I suspect actually is the main thing – I don’t know what else has been so different to make it this useless.
Pretty sure they gave up on the movement-based stuff after Miller in that magic spot had a couple of shorthanded goals against in like consecutive games. They made it a lot more conservative after that. @MS is always bringing this up.
 
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