PainForShane
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- Dec 24, 2019
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Hi everyone,
This is the first thread I've ever created, but I've been posting enough with I think enough value that I feel like I can start a thread like this. Plus I'm the last undefeated person and after 4 weeks am clearly leading in @RABBIT 's fantasy hockey league, there is no better time to ride the wave.
Honestly surprised we don't have a thread like this already, I really feel like we need something like this. Happy to help all of us superfans because it'll be fun in the long term.
Basically the idea is this. All of us are passionate about our team / hockey in general and I for one have seen so many passionate ideas flying around on these boards and as you all know have been part of more than a few of these passionate conversations. It's honestly inspiring even though sometimes the passion gets the better of everyone involved.
So, this is the thread to:
1) Tell everyone how smart you are when you had an unpopular idea that later on ended up mostly right.
For instance... last year I was the only one banging the drum that we should play Nick Schmaltz as a center, and I did so fighting significant headwinds against quite a few posters whose opinions I absolutely respect (@_Del_ I'm specifically thinking of you and the data you enclosed as part of this discussion but there are many others). Maybe some of you don't remember my line in the sand? Well I do!
and also
2) A safe place to own up to past mistakes. For those who may not remember, I was also the one with the line in the sand about 'no skill Conor Garland' -- at some point I essentially got memed in these boards and deservedly so. I would like to tell everyone I was 100% wrong re: Garland's skill level and absolutely could not be happier about it.
So, this thread is also the place to say, "oops I was wrong" and just to be incredibly clear I was absolutely wrong about 'no skill Conor Garland' who as we all know has lots of skill even though he came Yotes primary as a grinding power forward. A power forward who's 5' 6". *shrug*
Anyway! A few suggestions:
1) You should only talk about your own takes. For instance as much as I might want to chirp another poster for arguing Chayka was a top 5 GM (sorry, couldn't resist), this thread is a place to self-own and self-congratulate. This is where you say, "I told you so" if you had an unpopular opinion years ago that has now been proven right. I've only been a member of these boards for a few years but I'm sure some of us have very long memories and are too humble to say, "I told you so" over and over again (which is actually a good thing imo).
2) You should only claim credit or accept blame when you believe you have 100% been proven right or wrong. Re: Garland example, my mistaken Garland take from a few years ago is absolutely wrong, and I own up to it. Yes, Garland was a 5th rounder (123rd overall), yes, we were lucky to get him that late (he was our 7th pick that draft), and yes, I still think his biggest contributions have nothing to do with his skill (e.g., face goal) but at this point it is obvious to everyone that he has a pretty decent amount of skill in that midget frame of his.
In another example, my hot take of "if Kessel had better linemates and top 6 deployment he would be better" is imo still unproven because we still don't know either way despite Kessel's better play this year and how he performed against Nashville in last year's playoffs. If he ends up scoring the equivalent of 60 or 70 points this year in the shortened season, then yes it'd be appropriate to post something here.
So yes. Here is the place to own up to everything you've ever argued for, both the good and the bad. I'm hoping it'll save everyone time so no one will have to search through old message threads to find out who said what however many years ago.
Go Yotes!
This is the first thread I've ever created, but I've been posting enough with I think enough value that I feel like I can start a thread like this. Plus I'm the last undefeated person and after 4 weeks am clearly leading in @RABBIT 's fantasy hockey league, there is no better time to ride the wave.
Honestly surprised we don't have a thread like this already, I really feel like we need something like this. Happy to help all of us superfans because it'll be fun in the long term.
Basically the idea is this. All of us are passionate about our team / hockey in general and I for one have seen so many passionate ideas flying around on these boards and as you all know have been part of more than a few of these passionate conversations. It's honestly inspiring even though sometimes the passion gets the better of everyone involved.
So, this is the thread to:
1) Tell everyone how smart you are when you had an unpopular idea that later on ended up mostly right.
For instance... last year I was the only one banging the drum that we should play Nick Schmaltz as a center, and I did so fighting significant headwinds against quite a few posters whose opinions I absolutely respect (@_Del_ I'm specifically thinking of you and the data you enclosed as part of this discussion but there are many others). Maybe some of you don't remember my line in the sand? Well I do!
and also
2) A safe place to own up to past mistakes. For those who may not remember, I was also the one with the line in the sand about 'no skill Conor Garland' -- at some point I essentially got memed in these boards and deservedly so. I would like to tell everyone I was 100% wrong re: Garland's skill level and absolutely could not be happier about it.
So, this thread is also the place to say, "oops I was wrong" and just to be incredibly clear I was absolutely wrong about 'no skill Conor Garland' who as we all know has lots of skill even though he came Yotes primary as a grinding power forward. A power forward who's 5' 6". *shrug*
Anyway! A few suggestions:
1) You should only talk about your own takes. For instance as much as I might want to chirp another poster for arguing Chayka was a top 5 GM (sorry, couldn't resist), this thread is a place to self-own and self-congratulate. This is where you say, "I told you so" if you had an unpopular opinion years ago that has now been proven right. I've only been a member of these boards for a few years but I'm sure some of us have very long memories and are too humble to say, "I told you so" over and over again (which is actually a good thing imo).
2) You should only claim credit or accept blame when you believe you have 100% been proven right or wrong. Re: Garland example, my mistaken Garland take from a few years ago is absolutely wrong, and I own up to it. Yes, Garland was a 5th rounder (123rd overall), yes, we were lucky to get him that late (he was our 7th pick that draft), and yes, I still think his biggest contributions have nothing to do with his skill (e.g., face goal) but at this point it is obvious to everyone that he has a pretty decent amount of skill in that midget frame of his.
In another example, my hot take of "if Kessel had better linemates and top 6 deployment he would be better" is imo still unproven because we still don't know either way despite Kessel's better play this year and how he performed against Nashville in last year's playoffs. If he ends up scoring the equivalent of 60 or 70 points this year in the shortened season, then yes it'd be appropriate to post something here.
So yes. Here is the place to own up to everything you've ever argued for, both the good and the bad. I'm hoping it'll save everyone time so no one will have to search through old message threads to find out who said what however many years ago.
Go Yotes!
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