Star players that are bad playoff performers

[HockeyVirus]

We're you not complaining just earlier today about how he is a negative in the playoffs despite the production?

I don't think how he plays is indicative to winning. Whenever they face a team with solid enough structure AND good enough players that can be dangerous on a counter attack I think they get exposed each year whether it's the Avs or Knights.

But I don't recall ever saying he didn't produce.

 

[Realgud]

Matthews is by far the worst

 

[thekernel]

Leon Draisaitl


















heh

 

[The Macho King]

Matthews and Marner are garbage.

Stamkos is bad.

Panarin hasn't shown much yet.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Pettersson.

 

[Byron Bitz]

Panarin didnt even show up to last years playoffs

 

[JaegerDice]

In light of Petterson’s playoff performance. Who are some current or former star players that are bad playoff performers?

Petterson is having a bad playoff THIS year. Wasn't he a PPG player the last time the Canucks were in the playoffs?

I don't think the sample size of playoff games played is big enough to determine what kind of playoff performer he is yet.

 

[NVious]

I am genuinely curious about this one thing:

Does any star or noteworthy player in NHL history have a Game Seven track record worse than his or as bad?

Mitch Marner Stats In Career Game 7's | StatMuse

Mitchell Marner has 2 assists and a plus-minus of -5 in 5 games in the playoffs in his career.

www.statmuse.com

Five games played: zero goals, two assists, minus five rating. All losses for his team.

Matthews, 0 goals in 6 final elimination games (including game 5 vs Columbus).

 

[zar]

This RNH is disappointing you these playoffs?

This versatile forward who's been all over the lineup doing everything from PK to PP to centering his own line to 1LW and is currently 14th in scoring?


Are you a Korean parent?

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McDavid something… hurr, hurr, herr… Draisaitl something… hurr, hurr, hurr… PP merchant, hurr, hurr, hurr… gets favorable matchups… hurr, hurr, hurr.

Honestly, you can tell most of the people posting this garbage are in bed before Oiler games start. RNH is an excellent 3C or complimentary winger on the top 2 lines… he is not a star player (as per the OP), nor does he get paid like one.

 

[Byron Bitz]

Petterson is having a bad playoff THIS year. Wasn't he a PPG player the last time the Canucks were in the playoffs?

I don't think the sample size of playoff games played is big enough to determine what kind of playoff performer he is yet.

That was one playoff a while ago. Marner also went PPG in individual playoffs like last year and in 2018 but he’s definitely still a bad playoff performer.

Keith Tkachuk was a bad playoff performer

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Tyler Seguin and sadly Joe Thornton

 

[zar]

He's been great for years. I am not putting stock into his stats when he was on his ELC. Leafs best player when he was healthy this year, best player last year with some massive goals to win against Tampa, solid.

But production aside, claiming he is not built for the playoffs is my main issue. Mostly because people don't watch him. After the first few games before he got concussed everyone was praising how gritty he was playing including the Bruins coach who said

“I’ve been impressed by how tenacious he’s been on pucks and how relentless he’s been on the forecheck… He’s the most dangerous man on the ice because he’s earned it”​

He must have got that extra respect again in the handshake line.

No TML fans should be OK with Matthews cumulative playoff performances. It’s substandard for a $10m+ player… and they surely shouldn’t be throwing stones in glass houses.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Charlie McAvoy
Helly
Pastrnak

 

[Pucklington]

He's been great for years. I am not putting stock into his stats when he was on his ELC. Leafs best player when he was healthy this year, best player last year with some massive goals to win against Tampa, solid.

But production aside, claiming he is not built for the playoffs is my main issue. Mostly because people don't watch him. After the first few games before he got concussed everyone was praising how gritty he was playing including the Bruins coach who said

“I’ve been impressed by how tenacious he’s been on pucks and how relentless he’s been on the forecheck… He’s the most dangerous man on the ice because he’s earned it”​

How can you post this, and call Draisaitl a net negative?

Are you separated from reality or is the divorce finalized and she got the kids?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

The Leafs Sisters

 

[BurnabyJoe7]

He's been great for years. I am not putting stock into his stats when he was on his ELC. Leafs best player when he was healthy this year, best player last year with some massive goals to win against Tampa, solid.

But production aside, claiming he is not built for the playoffs is my main issue. Mostly because people don't watch him. After the first few games before he got concussed everyone was praising how gritty he was playing including the Bruins coach who said

“I’ve been impressed by how tenacious he’s been on pucks and how relentless he’s been on the forecheck… He’s the most dangerous man on the ice because he’s earned it”​

So you mention RNH who has a higher ppg these playoffs than your idol Matthews. Odd way of saying Matthews isn't a playoff performer but we already know that.

How can you post this, and call Draisaitl a net negative?

Are you separated from reality or is the divorce finalized and she got the kids?

It's flat out delusion

 

[Garbageyuk]

Marner.

Now that's out of the way, who else?

Matthews, Tavares.

 

[JaegerDice]

That was one playoff a while ago. Marner also went PPG in individual playoffs like last year and in 2018 but he’s definitely still a bad playoff performer.

Keith Tkachuk was a bad playoff performer

It was, but that's kind of my point. We have two playoff runs of two rounds each, one in which he was great, and another in which he's been sub-par. I'd prefer more than two data points at opposite ends of the chart to draw a firm conclusion.

Marner by comparison, has been to the playoffs 8 times, and been over a PPG 3 of those times, and in every other case he scored 4 or fewer points per 7 games. Plus his points consistently drop off later in series. So we have enough information to say 'yeah, he's not a great playoff performer'.

 

[TheNumber4]

Do we really need a leaf’s thread right now? It’s the 2nd round.

 

[nbwingsfan]

I am genuinely curious about this one thing:

Does any star or noteworthy player in NHL history have a Game Seven track record worse than his or as bad?

Mitch Marner Stats In Career Game 7's | StatMuse

Mitchell Marner has 2 assists and a plus-minus of -5 in 5 games in the playoffs in his career.

www.statmuse.com

Five games played: zero goals, two assists, minus five rating. All losses for his team.

Matthews isn’t much better than that

 

[Miro4Norris]

Petterson is having a bad playoff THIS year. Wasn't he a PPG player the last time the Canucks were in the playoffs?

I don't think the sample size of playoff games played is big enough to determine what kind of playoff performer he is yet.

His own coach is calling him out continuously. If Petey was meeting his potential instead of being a no show, this series would be 3-1 or even 4-0 given how tight games both Oilers wins have been. Dude has seriously let down his team. Playing like average fourth line center and about to become one of the highest paid forwards.

 

[JaegerDice]

His own coach is calling him out continuously. If Petey was meeting his potential instead of being a no show, this series would be 3-1 or even 4-0 given how tight games both Oilers wins have been. Dude has seriously let down his team. Playing like average fourth line center and about to become one of the highest paid forwards

Yes... and?

I've never argued Pettersson was playing well in this year's playoffs.

I simply said he's only played on two playoff runs to date, one in which he was excellent, one in which he has been sub-par.

So are we just assuming he's sub-par based on one playoff run? If so, how is that better than assuming he's great based on one playoff run?

 

[GRob83]

Since 1993, every star player on every Canadian team.

 

[Miro4Norris]

Yes... and?

I've never argued Pettersson was playing well in this year's playoffs.

I simply said he's only played on two playoff runs to date, one in which he was excellent, one in which he has been sub-par.

So are we just assuming he's sub-par based on one playoff run? If so, how is that better than assuming he's great based on one playoff run?

He's literally performing for his playoff resume right now. Yes, 11 games is a lot of playoffs hockey already. It's not a random sample during the long regular season, it's 11 games of that time of the year when the best players stand out from the crowd.

Petey was ranked higher than Drai early this season/ at off-season. Even if you don't agree with that, at least they should be close, right? Guess which one has 10 points this series while other one has 1 point?

I am more interested of what's happening now than 5 years ago, but okay I don't mind combining the results. It's still a poor performance

 

[JoeSakic13]

Nichushkin has disappeared 2 playoffs in a row. Definitely him.