OT: Should Doug Armstrong get fired?

[Ted Hoffman]

What IT would take to get Army fired?

This team needs new direction.

He has to do something that causes someone in ownership that's not Tom Stillman to say "OK, I've had enough - he has to go." Like, say, proposing to send Torey Krug to Springfield for not waiving his NTC - an idea a few people here have floated that (1) isn't going to happen, but (2) I'd love to see Armstrong float in a FAFO kind of way. Or, his refocus goes on for another year or two and the team never makes the playoffs. Maybe then.

Beyond that? Armstrong is never getting the boot. He'll get to leave on his own terms and he'll get feted on the way out the door.

 

[Ranksu]

 

[Ranksu]

Doug Armstrong, Drew Bannister reflect on 2023-24 season

St. Louis Blues General Manager Doug Armstrong and Interim Head Coach Drew Bannister reflect on the 2023-24 season during a live press conference from Centen...

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[BrokenFace]

Doug Armstrong, Drew Bannister reflect on 2023-24 season

St. Louis Blues General Manager Doug Armstrong and Interim Head Coach Drew Bannister reflect on the 2023-24 season during a live press conference from Centen...

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If Army was fired this off-season, who would you want him replaced with? Not someone who has never been a GM, but someone with a track record of running a team that we can judge. Even if you prefer someone who hasn't been a GM yet, I'm wondering what candidates who have been GM before would make a good replacement.

 

[Xerloris]

If Army was fired this off-season, who would you want him replaced with? Not someone who has never been a GM, but someone with a track record of running a team that we can judge. Even if you prefer someone who hasn't been a GM yet, I'm wondering what candidates who have been GM before would make a good replacement.

Obvious answer would have to be Chiarelli right?

 

[Ranksu]

If Army was fired this off-season, who would you want him replaced with? Not someone who has never been a GM, but someone with a track record of running a team that we can judge. Even if you prefer someone who hasn't been a GM yet, I'm wondering what candidates who have been GM before would make a good replacement.

Im not man who knows who is right guy GM Job. I only know what Army has done. Blues direction is downsliding and looks like Army isnt The right guy to FIX IT. He has only make us worse.

 

[Ranksu]

 

[Linkens Mastery]

You're going to be waiting awhile. Stillman has came out and basically said Army isn't getting fired.

 

[Celtic Note]

You're going to be waiting awhile. Stillman has came out and basically said Army isn't getting fired.

Recently?

 

[LetsGoBLUES91]

100% yes.

 

[TheDizee]

Fire him already.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Made Bannister HC instead of getting someone like Gallant onboard?

Are we starting to have budget concerns or is Army still staring at his magic board?

 

[Ranksu]

 

[Xerloris]

Made Bannister HC instead of getting someone like Gallant onboard?

Are we starting to have budget concerns or is Army still staring at his magic board?

Why would you want Gallant when you're not competing?

 

[LogosBlue]

Why would you want Gallant when you're not competing?

I think DA made it pretty clear he wants to compete for playoffs while re-whatever it is he is doing. We should have went after Gallant with a serious effort. That's like saying, we don't want to compete or don't bring in any good players because it's not our year for another two years.

 

[Xerloris]

I think DA made it pretty clear he wants to compete for playoffs while re-whatever it is he is doing. We should have went after Gallant with a serious effort. That's like saying, we don't want to compete or don't bring in any good players because it's not our year for another two years.

Competing for the playoffs and competing for cup are two very different things. We can give it a serious effort without actually competing. We have to wait for prospects to develop.

 

[Drubilly]

There is a discussion on the main regarding Gallant and Berube. I suggest folks read up if they're still handwringing over the Bannister hire and "missing out" on another coach such as Gallant.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Why would you want Gallant when you're not competing?

Because when you're ready to, he probably won't be available. You grab pieces when the opportunity arises. Plus, this team IS competing, there will be NO blowup, NO rebuild, so we ARE competing whether the roster shows it or not. Signing subpar because you're 'waiting' for the right moment and timing is really sideways.

 

[Xerloris]

Because when you're ready to, he probably won't be available. You grab pieces when the opportunity arises. Plus, this team IS competing, there will be NO blowup, NO rebuild, so we ARE competing whether the roster shows it or not. Signing subpar because you're 'waiting' for the right moment and timing is really sideways.

So we should go out and try to make a big splash in the UFA market and trade market even if they don't meet our core age group and timline and will be to old and on the downside of their career when we are ready to actually compete. Makes sense. That's basically what you just said.

 

[Blueston]

Because when you're ready to, he probably won't be available. You grab pieces when the opportunity arises. Plus, this team IS competing, there will be NO blowup, NO rebuild, so we ARE competing whether the roster shows it or not. Signing subpar because you're 'waiting' for the right moment and timing is really sideways.

he'll be available. he's always available. he gets fired after like 2 years every time. i don't want him. now or probably ever.

 

[GoldenSeal]

So we should go out and try to make a big splash in the UFA market and trade market even if they don't meet our core age group and timline and will be to old and on the downside of their career when we are ready to actually compete. Makes sense. That's basically what you just said.

You're talking about players, I'm talking about coaching. You BUILD YOUR SYSTEM FIRST. You sign, draft and put your players through it and create the ethics, standards and integrity you want the team to stand by. Its an investment. I don't see the coaching to help develop this team into what it needs to be under Bannister. You stopgap players, not coaches.

 

[Xerloris]

You're talking about players, I'm talking about coaching. You BUILD YOUR SYSTEM FIRST. You sign, draft and put your players through it and create the ethics, standards and integrity you want the team to stand by. Its an investment. I don't see the coaching to help develop this team into what it needs to be under Bannister. You stopgap players, not coaches.

Sorry bud but you're off the deep end. You don't just decide on a system and force your team into it. You build a system that can help your team succeed, you don't force round pegs into square holes. If you do you end up with Krug.