@Hivemind is simply baiting you. Don’t fall for it TexGreen deserved that 31 goals Norris. Seems I need to recalibrate. I thought Ov was great. If goals are just another stat, maybe I am wrong.
@Hivemind is simply baiting you. Don’t fall for it TexGreen deserved that 31 goals Norris. Seems I need to recalibrate. I thought Ov was great. If goals are just another stat, maybe I am wrong.
Quintuple posting so your posts take up half the page doesn't make you "half the board."@Hivemind
Hard to take your contributions to any discussion seriously when you ignore half the boards commentary. Talk about trying to only play (and own) your own sandbox.
Glad you are following along. Thanks. I responded to 5 separate messages, but I guess that’s too many?Quintuple posting so your posts take up half the page doesn't make you "half the board."
What stat is more important than scoring points?
he had mostly bad G play behind him (save Samsonov’s first few months), a bad D partner, and now it looks like bad coaching to boot.
Put Carlson in Josi’s role in Nash. We all really think he’s do worse?
or flip side — our Josi in Carlsons role in DC. He’d do better?
I mean I’d pick something like WAR if I had to rely on one stat because it tries to take into account everything.
The problem with just relying on points is that it doesn’t take into account defensive contributions at all. By most metrics (xGA, defensive WAR, CA/FA, etc.) Carlson is not only below average but he’s near the bottom of the league defensively. Taken in totality he’s not a top 5 defenseman in the league according to most people who crunch the numbers. It’s not meant as some huge burn against him, it’s just what it is.
I’m open to saying Carlson will be better under a new coach but it’s not enough to make him a Norris contender this year. Indeed players like Jensen and Orlov were able to put together competent defensive play under the same poor coaching so it’s difficult for me to excuse all or even most of Carlson’s defensive faults as a coaching failure or a goaltending failure.
If you’re asking me who I’d take next year I’d take Josi in a heartbeat. It’s also why I’m advocating trading Carlson and signing Pietrangelo, not that it will ever happen.
The cut of your jib just took a serious hit with me, mister. And I’d wager @CapitalsCupReality as well.
BOOOOOO
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What kind of statistic "accounts for everything"? That doesn't even make sense.I mean I’d pick something like WAR if I had to rely on one stat because it tries to take into account everything.
What kind of statistic "accounts for everything"? That doesn't even make sense.
What kind of statistic "accounts for everything"? That doesn't even make sense.
Beyond that, your take on Carlson reminds me of your old anti-Orpik positions. When the stats don't align with what you see happening on the ice, you choose to not believe your eyes. I'm not saying JC74 is Brooks Orpik, far from it; they're totally different players. But they both are on-ice difference makers, no matter what the number-crunchers say, and for at least half of the RS, Carlson was absolutely top tier. Leaving him off the ballot entirely is preposterous.
Carlson was Probably a top-5 Defender early? I’m pretty sure we can trace your Carlson criticism to his early days, so pardon my disgust in that opinion.
I’m talking about 2019-20, not prior seasons. It’s a one season award and not a lifetime achievement award despite how some of the PHWA members cast their ballots.
Opinion can be jaded from years of criticizing a player.
Agreed, another reason to disregard the eye test.
I am so grateful I don't view hockey as an equation to be solved.
Or get better at your eye test?
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"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."
-Socrates”
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"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing."
-Socrates”
-@twabby
“When you have faults, do not fear to abandon them”
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I am so grateful I don't view hockey as an equation to be solved.
"Eating words has never given me indigestion."
-Churchill