garret9
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Too much excitement about the Jets' coming back for another season...
Must run more stats...
Okay, time for some more fun. I should clear things up since this isn't really just the highest scoring defensemen... it's never that simple with me; I'll explain as we go.
Even Strength:
It's not enough to just score as a defensemen, you have to be competent enough to push play into the other zone and the best do it without being sheltered. Some guys get nice point totals (boxcar stats) because they get all the icetime... some because they're just good at it. Well, let's take a look at the highest scoring rates relative to ice-time of non-sheltered individuals who were not being out-shot.
(For the stat guys: >0 RelQoC, >3.5 Corsi, +30GP)
Name
|
Team
|
RelCorsi
|
G/60
|
A1/60
|
P/60
Karlsson |OTT |11.3 |0.60 |0.52 |1.72
Letang |PIT |06.4 |0.20 |0.66 |1.38
Bieksa |PIT |07.6 |0.25 |0.34 |1.31
Niktin |CBJ |08.1 |0.23 |0.35 |1.28
Byfuglien|WPG |13.1 |0.28 |0.42 |1.27
Chara |BOS |13.0 |0.16 |0.44 |1.24
Timonen |PHI |08.2 |0.00 |0.65 |1.19
Enstrom|WPG |14.5 |0.21 |0.42 |0.99
Ehrhoff |BUF |03.9 |0.20 |0.31 |0.97
Ekman-Larsson |PHX |6.4 |0.41 |0.17 |0.95
After that (in order):
Streit, Hamhuis, Visnovsky, Burns, Weber, White, Pietrangelo, Martin, Garrison, Subban, Lidstrom, Campbell, Suter, Tyutin, Boychuk, Fowler, Sekera, Colaiacovo, Beauchemin, and Robidas
Bogosian didn't make the cut due to poor possession stats (IMHO, thanks to Stuart and "Free Pizza" Oduya). But, here's what to anticipate when he does make it with full year of Hainsey or better.
Name
|
Team
|
RelCorsi
|
G/60
|
A1/60
|
P/60
Bogosian |WPG|-2.7 |0.21 |0.32 |1.12
Pretty great offensive numbers from Bogosian. I'm excited to see how he does when he has a great partner beside him like Enstrom, Trouba or Hainsey's upgrade.
Here's where our two high-end Jets land:
Name
|
Team
|
RelCorsi
|
G/60
|
A1/60
|
P/60
Byfuglien |WPG|02 |06 |07 |05
Enstrom |WPG|01 |13 |06 |08
Hmm... doesn't look like Enstrom had an off year offensively, at least at even strength. His numbers were some of the best of his career.
Bogosian was best since his rookie year.
Power Play:
Now the power-play is a different story. Pretty much all that matters is scoring. As I noted in the Hainsey thread I made, PP is where a large chunk of defensemen's scoring comes from. This is top 30 irregardless of being "sheltered" (it's PP... everyone is getting easy minutes!)
Name
|
Team
|
G/60
|
A1/60
|
P/60
Pietrangelo|STL |1.34|2.69|6.19
Chara |BOS |2.44|1.83|5.48
Whitney |EDM |1.08|1.62|5.41
Campbell |FLA |0.18|2.37|2.37
Shattenkirk |STL |1.32|1.85|4.77
Byfuglien|WPG|0.84|1.67|4.73
Weber |NSH |2.01|1.56|4.47
Karlsson |OTT |0.61|2.83|4.44
Suter |NSH |0.42|2.32|4.44
Edler |VAN |1.09|1.09|4.38
Streit, EJohnson, Letang, Wideman, Potter, Phaneuf, Burns, Leddy, Kronwall, Colaiacovo, Timonen, Lidstrom, Kulikov, Foster, Gonchar, Liles, Enstrom, Bouwmeester, Tuytin, and McBane
Name
|
Team
|
G/60
|
A1/60
|
P/60
Enstrom |WPG|0.63|0.63|3.45
Bogosian |WPG|0.38|1.54|2.69
This is actually the second highest G/60, and p/60 of Enstrom's PP career but the lowest PP TOI/60 and A1/60 of his career. I'll do an Enstrom breakdown some other time but it seems he didn't have a bad offensive year. He just got less PP TOI and less games played.
Just like even-strength, this was Bogosian's best since his rookie season.
Here's where our two high-end Jets land:
Name
|
Team
|
G/60
|
A1/60
|
P/60
Byfuglien |WPG|15 |10 |06
Enstrom |WPG|19 |28 |27
Bogosian would have been 44 in P/60 on the list.
Again we have two in the top 30, and one just outside.
Summary:
It seems we have the problem of having two #1's and a #1-2 tweener when it comes to offense. Not a bad problem to have at all
Defensively they are pretty good too. Byfuglien still has his issues, but that's another topic.
PS:
I already have done a breakdown of Burmistrov, Hainsey and Pavelec... I think I'll do as many as I can before the NHL starts up. Feel free to PM me any requests of which players you'd want me to do next
Must run more stats...
Okay, time for some more fun. I should clear things up since this isn't really just the highest scoring defensemen... it's never that simple with me; I'll explain as we go.
Even Strength:
It's not enough to just score as a defensemen, you have to be competent enough to push play into the other zone and the best do it without being sheltered. Some guys get nice point totals (boxcar stats) because they get all the icetime... some because they're just good at it. Well, let's take a look at the highest scoring rates relative to ice-time of non-sheltered individuals who were not being out-shot.
(For the stat guys: >0 RelQoC, >3.5 Corsi, +30GP)
Karlsson |OTT |11.3 |0.60 |0.52 |1.72
Letang |PIT |06.4 |0.20 |0.66 |1.38
Bieksa |PIT |07.6 |0.25 |0.34 |1.31
Niktin |CBJ |08.1 |0.23 |0.35 |1.28
Byfuglien|WPG |13.1 |0.28 |0.42 |1.27
Chara |BOS |13.0 |0.16 |0.44 |1.24
Timonen |PHI |08.2 |0.00 |0.65 |1.19
Enstrom|WPG |14.5 |0.21 |0.42 |0.99
Ehrhoff |BUF |03.9 |0.20 |0.31 |0.97
Ekman-Larsson |PHX |6.4 |0.41 |0.17 |0.95
Streit, Hamhuis, Visnovsky, Burns, Weber, White, Pietrangelo, Martin, Garrison, Subban, Lidstrom, Campbell, Suter, Tyutin, Boychuk, Fowler, Sekera, Colaiacovo, Beauchemin, and Robidas
Bogosian didn't make the cut due to poor possession stats (IMHO, thanks to Stuart and "Free Pizza" Oduya). But, here's what to anticipate when he does make it with full year of Hainsey or better.
Bogosian |WPG|-2.7 |0.21 |0.32 |1.12
Here's where our two high-end Jets land:
Byfuglien |WPG|02 |06 |07 |05
Enstrom |WPG|01 |13 |06 |08
Bogosian was best since his rookie year.
Power Play:
Now the power-play is a different story. Pretty much all that matters is scoring. As I noted in the Hainsey thread I made, PP is where a large chunk of defensemen's scoring comes from. This is top 30 irregardless of being "sheltered" (it's PP... everyone is getting easy minutes!)
Pietrangelo|STL |1.34|2.69|6.19
Chara |BOS |2.44|1.83|5.48
Whitney |EDM |1.08|1.62|5.41
Campbell |FLA |0.18|2.37|2.37
Shattenkirk |STL |1.32|1.85|4.77
Byfuglien|WPG|0.84|1.67|4.73
Weber |NSH |2.01|1.56|4.47
Karlsson |OTT |0.61|2.83|4.44
Suter |NSH |0.42|2.32|4.44
Edler |VAN |1.09|1.09|4.38
Enstrom |WPG|0.63|0.63|3.45
Bogosian |WPG|0.38|1.54|2.69
Just like even-strength, this was Bogosian's best since his rookie season.
Here's where our two high-end Jets land:
Byfuglien |WPG|15 |10 |06
Enstrom |WPG|19 |28 |27
Again we have two in the top 30, and one just outside.
Summary:
It seems we have the problem of having two #1's and a #1-2 tweener when it comes to offense. Not a bad problem to have at all
Defensively they are pretty good too. Byfuglien still has his issues, but that's another topic.
PS:
I already have done a breakdown of Burmistrov, Hainsey and Pavelec... I think I'll do as many as I can before the NHL starts up. Feel free to PM me any requests of which players you'd want me to do next
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