Sens of Anarchy
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- Jul 9, 2013
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Don't want to jinx it but feel perfectly normal so far, and it has been 24 hours.Right on! Are you tired at all today? I had no chills or aches but holy crap i was tired the next day.
Don't want to jinx it but feel perfectly normal so far, and it has been 24 hours.
Apparently, nothing scientific, but of all the people in the 40+ that are struggling, about a dozen that I know, the ones that have a lot of side effect haven't had the flu shot...ever. Interesting?
I don't think as a thought it's all that "unhinged" maybe only if you're overestimating the possibility of it happening based on a couple off hand previous scenarios, I just think it's a very unlikely scenario for the vaccines with all the checks and balances we have today. People have messed up before and it's human tendency to focus on ST solutions that looking back on in hindsight many would think, "what were they thinking, could they not see the train coming?".
Anyways, my point was, if having that thought come up at some point is unhinged, then I'm unhinged, because I think it's totally possible humanity could be the author of its own demise someday.
But I don't think this is that time. Looking at the risk profile of vaccine or covid, right now the vaccine is far and away the logical choice and I plan to get mine when I have the chance.
The only worry I have is in the repeat dosages and the boosters + the quick approval they'll be getting. I believe MRNA has been around for awhile just never used in humans. I think the safety profile had been called into question mainly due to toxicity at large doses in animals, but right now there are tens of millions of people out there proving that the currently approved doses are fine.
But why? If mass vaccination as quickly as possible is the most effective approach from a public health standpoint then what's the benefit of half measures?
I got my poke yesterday (Pfizer though, as a essential caregiver), no side effects whatsoever other than a sore arm. I didn't get the flu vaccine this year, but usually do.Don't want to jinx it but feel perfectly normal so far, and it has been 24 hours.
Apparently, nothing scientific, but of all the people in the 40+ that are struggling, about a dozen that I know, the ones that have a lot of side effect haven't had the flu shot...ever. Interesting?
Politics? Optics? Limited information at the early stages of the pandemic?
If we were giving young people the vaxx at a time when nearly all deaths were in the senior crowd, people would scream. If we did first come first serve, the older folks (and biggest voting block) would take aim at whatever provincial/federal governments were in charge and riot.
This is a Kobayashi Maru scenario. There is no right solution.
As a complete laymen on the subject, my thought it when supply is limited, it makes more sense to protect the most vulnerable, when supply is ample, it makes the most sense to target nexuses of transmission. This assumes the most vulnerable is a much smaller group while the nexus of transmission. If you have a supply that is fairly large, but still needs to be triaged, your suggestion about targeting both groups seems ideal.
That's my reasoning too; people saying they should have used the vaccines on the most exposed vs the most vulnerable right from the start might be forgetting that we just didn't have enough vaccines initially.As a complete laymen on the subject, my thought it when supply is limited, it makes more sense to protect the most vulnerable, when supply is ample, it makes the most sense to target nexuses of transmission. This assumes the most vulnerable is a much smaller group while the nexus of transmission. If you have a supply that is fairly large, but still needs to be triaged, your suggestion about targeting both groups seems ideal.
You are most welcome.
It's my pleasure to assist with your safety and those of others, particularly those unable to contribute to herd immunity for legitimate reasons like having immuno-compromised conditions.
It's a fairly selfless act with an extremely low degree of risk and it's my obligation to help out where I can as a member of society.
Don't want to jinx it but feel perfectly normal so far, and it has been 24 hours.
Apparently, nothing scientific, but of all the people in the 40+ that are struggling, about a dozen that I know, the ones that have a lot of side effect haven't had the flu shot...ever. Interesting?
I wonder if maybe the ones with a stronger reaction to the 1st shot had some previous low level exposure to covid, maybe not enough to make them noticeably sick but enough to develop an immune response?
It's here to stay. By next year we'll be talking about Covid-34cant wait for covid to be over so the world can get hysterical about climate change again.
It's here to stay. By next year we'll be talking about Covid-34
I think it's all but guaranteed by now. All this tinkering with nature is forcing bugs, germs, viruses and whatnot to evolve at a much faster rate than nature intended. Sooner or later, our science won't be able to keep up with it.
Then we'll be in deep shit as a species.
cant wait for covid to be over so the world can get hysterical about climate change again.
While climate change is absolutely a threat and should be taken more seriously, using Joe Rogan as your expert to demonstrate this isn't the strongest strategy.There is a high degree of probability that climate change played a significant factor in the occurrence of the virus. Bats are getting displaced due to changing weather patterns.
Joe Rogan understands that climate change is an existential threat. Do you need me to link you to a video of his?
While climate change is absolutely a threat and should be taken more seriously, using Joe Rogan as your expert to demonstrate this isn't the strongest strategy.
Oh, hah, I missed that, I don't see his posts. Was wondering when you'd fallen off the deep end.It is a joke because Joe Rogan is Stylizer1's God.