Chukcha
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I'm worrying about Holtby, he looks like he has lost confidence forever.
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Well if this is going to be the Player Discussion/Concern thread for Holtby I'll put this here, from the recent GDT:
Holtby has lost the bedrock of his game which was his mental game and his composure. His reaction to letting in goals is completely different than what it used to be, and he is reinforcing negative emotions and attitudes about his game every time he fails, making it more likely to happen again. Progressively, subconsciously, he's going to be more likely to let in the borderline goals as well since his previously trustworthy unconscious ability will carry the seeds of potential failure planted previously.
We know Kolzig has messed with him and we don't know how much that's still affecting him. The ability to blow off a goal and rely on your ability is undermined when you are forced to think about everything you're doing and you no longer trust that merely forgetting about a bad play or outcome is enough to "reset" everything. Right now nothing is working in that regard, or at least it isn't working as consistently as it used to. This is like a golfer getting worse before getting better during a swing change.
A bad game just hours after his boss trades for a veteran goaltender is a test of Holtby's psyche, and he failed that SPECIFIC test based on the WAY HE RESPONDED, not the results on the tally sheet. That doesn't mean he flat out sucks or he played as bad as the score indicates. We know he can do better because we've seen it, even under pressure and in the playoffs.
Holtby is a good goalie with serious issues at the moment. He is at a crossroads in his career, in my opinion, and he can either rise to the occasion and block out the distractions or he can crumble and watch his career sink.
Confidence “always takes a hit if things aren’t going well. I don’t think it’s at a low by any means, I still believe in myself. But throughout the game you start — you’re not fielding many shots,” Holtby said. “A play like that comes and I don’t get over far enough on the angle. Overthink it, think he’s going back again with the pass and he beats me short side. It’s just those things that I need to have the confidence in myself that I can square up to him and I still have the ability to get back if he passes.”
Doesn't Holtby (or anyone) have to win a Vezina before becoming Jim Carey?
From 2 months ago: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...by-its-all-about-getting-the-confidence-back/
This is BH's mind and body fighting Kolzig's instructions. Right down to the letter.
From 2 months ago: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...by-its-all-about-getting-the-confidence-back/
This is BH's mind and body fighting Kolzig's instructions. Right down to the letter.
If Kolzig instructions have sunk his career....he didnt have much of one in store then. You cant be that fragile and expect to play start in net 60+ games a season
So if you don't respond well to bad coaching, you don't have much of a career in store? That's silly.
yes, thats exactly what I said...to that extreme too.
In any case...this isnt not responding well, this is more like folding. Point to "bad coaching" all you want. I dont know if its bad coaching or not, seems like you are certain though. The bigger issue is a coached tried to, well, coach....and you are saying (or seems like it) that is the sole reason his game fell apart. If so, thats pretty fragile....which is not a good sign for a position that is about as mental as any in sport
To use your tactics I guess that anytime a player isnt getting it done its all on the coach?
yes, thats exactly what I said...to that extreme too.
In any case...this isnt not responding well, this is more like folding. Point to "bad coaching" all you want. I dont know if its bad coaching or not, seems like you are certain though. The bigger issue is a coached tried to, well, coach....and you are saying (or seems like it) that is the sole reason his game fell apart. If so, thats pretty fragile....which is not a good sign for a position that is about as mental as any in sport
To use your tactics I guess that anytime a player isnt getting it done its all on the coach?
yes, thats exactly what I said...to that extreme too.
In any case...this isnt not responding well, this is more like folding. Point to "bad coaching" all you want. I dont know if its bad coaching or not, seems like you are certain though. The bigger issue is a coached tried to, well, coach....and you are saying (or seems like it) that is the sole reason his game fell apart. If so, thats pretty fragile....which is not a good sign for a position that is about as mental as any in sport
To use your tactics I guess that anytime a player isnt getting it done its all on the coach?
This makes no sense.
He had a style of play that he was very good at. It needed a bit of smoothing but was overall highly successful.
They made him change to something that he isn't good at. He's struggled terribly trying to do it, and it has affected his confidence. That's Human Nature 101.
Anyone would lose confidence when asked to repeatedly sacrifice their strengths in pursuit of a strategy they aren't successful at.
Starting NHL goalies need a better level of confidence that you or me...its not like they asked him to play left handed....they are looking for goalies to play a little deeper. IM not saying I agree with that but I certainly am not going "well...that explains all the inconsistent play" and fully excuse the guy who is actually in net and supposed to be stopping the puck
just two simple questions...
Is Hotlby responsible for his play?
Should he be playing better?
Starting NHL goalies need a better level of confidence that you or me...its not like they asked him to play left handed....they are looking for goalies to play a little deeper. IM not saying I agree with that but I certainly am not going "well...that explains all the inconsistent play" and fully excuse the guy who is actually in net and supposed to be stopping the puck
just two simple questions...
Is Hotlby responsible for his play?
Should he be playing better?