Blue Jays/MLB 2024

[rboomercat90]

You two should have a barn fight, Brian Burke style.

 

[Cloned]

I have no idea why you brought up a comparison after 3 games in the first place. As I've said, beyond stupid.
And as I actually have stated, Cashman has had about 80 million more in payroll to work with, so the expectation should be much higher. Again, beyond stupid.

By the way, since you're bringing up their current standing. Who made the playoffs last year and who finished in last place?

Answer the question, would you rather have Atkins than Cashman?

(If you answer yes I’m gonna have to question your sanity )

 

[Sra1974]

Answer the question, would you rather have Atkins than Cashman?

(If you answer yes I’m gonna have to question your sanity )

My answer would be neither if it was a choice,

 

[Stoneman89]

My answer would be neither if it was a choice,

Yup, that’s what I would say as well.

 

[Stoneman89]

Answer the question, would you rather have Atkins than Cashman?

(If you answer yes I’m gonna have to question your sanity )

I only responded to your Turner/Soto comparison later on, was just to show you how utterly stupid it is to compare players 3 days into a 162 game schedule, and how quickly things can change, one way or the other. I still have my doubts whether you understand this or not.

 

[Barrsy]

The only reason I continued the comparison of Turner and Soto later on

I only responded to your Turner/Soto comparison later on, was just to show you how utterly stupid it is to compare players 3 days into a 162 game schedule, and how quickly things can change, one way or the other. I still have my doubts whether you understand this or not.

bingo

 

[Stoneman89]

You two should have a barn fight, Brian Burke style.

Unfortunately, the other participant has brought a knife to the gunfight in the battle of logic. Just frustrating at times. Like trying to hit a pinata in a windstorm.

P.S. I would have coughed up pay for view if Burke and Lowe would have gone at it.

 

[Cloned]

I only responded to your Turner/Soto comparison later on, was just to show you how utterly stupid it is to compare players 3 days into a 162 game schedule, and how quickly things can change, one way or the other. I still have my doubts whether you understand this or not.

I made a reasonable extrapolation based on history and ages of the players. And the numbers are bearing that out right now.

 

[Stoneman89]

I made a reasonable extrapolation based on history and ages of the players. And the numbers are bearing that out right now.

Like I said, I don't believe you get it, so I'm moving on.

 

[Cloned]

Like I said, I don't believe you get it, so I'm moving on.

I get it, the numbers are supporting my narrative.

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

Holy sh**! Is Manoah actually back?
He was as impressive today as at anytime in 2022.

 

[Sra1974]

Holy sh**! Is Manoah actually back?
He was as impressive today as at anytime in 2022.

It sure appears that way. Still a bit of a control issue but that’s always been his issue, Would like to see more but he was impressive today.

 

[GOilers88]

Holy sh**! Is Manoah actually back?
He was as impressive today as at anytime in 2022.

Had a great day, but it's going to take a lot more than one start to convince me of anything substantial.

 

[Oilers333]

Atkins with a classic delusional, empty press conference. Team blows. 8th highest payroll, bottom 5 farm system. As close to the bottom of the AL as we are to the wildcard 45 games in. Scary downward trajectory.

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

Had a great day, but it's going to take a lot more than one start to convince me of anything substantial.

He's had 2 good starts in a row. He's trending in the right direction.
Not saying he's back to 2022 form long-term but today was impressive.

 

[Stoneman89]

Yankees rack up another win today, albeit against the lowly White Sox, but still, humming along. As a Yankee fan, I've learned to enjoy these stretches but not get carried away, as unfortunately, it's a long year, and the better teams usually take control down the stretch and into the playoffs.

 

[rboomercat90]

Holy sh**! Is Manoah actually back?
He was as impressive today as at anytime in 2022.

I was surprised they brought him back up so soon without him showing a lot more in the minors considering how bizarre everything was around him last year but he’s looked really good in all his starts. The last start where he threw 57 pitches to get through 6 innings was very impressive. We still don’t know what his issues really were last year but he does look more relaxed on the mound now then he did then so maybe he’s got that figured out.

 

[Stoneman89]

I was surprised they brought him back up so soon without him showing a lot more in the minors considering how bizarre everything was around him last year but he’s looked really good in all his starts. The last start where he threw 57 pitches to get through 6 innings was very impressive. We still don’t know what his issues really were last year but he does look more relaxed on the mound now then he did then so maybe he’s got that figured out.

If he's got the mental part figured out finally, then he's 90 % there. As we've all seen, he definitely has the physical tools. His sinker, slider and 4 seamer were deadly the other day and he mixed them perfectly.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I think the Blue Jays management have out thought their way through their sliver window in the killer AL East Division. Moved away from power baseball into small ball, pitching team while watching the hitting shrink up further on this team. Now lapped by Baltimore's lengthy rebuild arriving and Yankees spending their uber money more wisely.

Felt this ESNP article a week back was on the money and look at the standing to see Jays are now 11.5 games back. What a mess this management group has made.

Real or not? It's time to panic about Astros and other MLB disappointments

These three recent playoff squads are still near the bottom of the majors six weeks in. Does this define who they are this season?

www.espn.com

 

[rboomercat90]

So… Not only did the Jays bring back the home run jacket tonight they’ve also introduced a red carpet for the player to walk on through the dug out, at least they’ve got something to play for now. I guess the battle for professionalism was lost to these players.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

So… Not only did the Jays bring back the home run jacket tonight they’ve also introduced a red carpet for the player to walk on through the dug out, at least they’ve got something to play for now. I guess the battle for professionalism was lost to these players.

Hell I'm hoping they'll dress the home run jacket. Lots of empty jerseys on this team and someone... something ... needs to provide some pop.

This management group Galaxy Brained their window shifting from a power team into small baller, defense and run suppression little leaguer group.

 

[rboomercat90]

Hell I'm hoping they'll dress the home run jacket. Lots of empty jerseys on this team and someone... something ... needs to provide some pop.

This management group Galaxy Brained their window shifting from a power team into small baller, defense and run suppression little leaguer group.

I had no problem with moving out the players they did. I agreed with the reasons for doing it. As good as Hernandez and Gurriel were as hitters their defense was so awful it was costing them games in the field. Throw in Teoscars poor attitude and it made sense to move him out. The issue here is what they valued in return. Their professional scouting department is a joke as is their entire management philosophy starting at least with Atkins and likely including Shapiro himself. I’d have cut Shapiro some slack if he’d have fired Atkins last November. It was clear to everybody else after last season that the team had gone down the wrong path and it was time to change course. He didn’t see it and is clearly part of the problem himself. It’s a shame what these two have squandered here over the last few years. There was so much promise.

 

[GOilers88]

I had no problem with moving out the players they did. I agreed with the reasons for doing it. As good as Hernandez and Gurriel were as hitters their defense was so awful it was costing them games in the field. Throw in Teoscars poor attitude and it made sense to move him out. The issue here is what they valued in return. Their professional scouting department is a joke as is their entire management philosophy starting at least with Atkins and likely including Shapiro himself. I’d have cut Shapiro some slack if he’d have fired Atkins last November. It was clear to everybody else after last season that the team had gone down the wrong path and it was time to change course. He didn’t see it and is clearly part of the problem himself. It’s a shame what these two have squandered here over the last few years. There was so much promise.

I think everything is exacerbated by Vladdy and Bo not being the franchise cornerstones they were supposed to be. The mental gaffes and massive plate inconsistency in their games this far into their run is not what I expected.

Atkins has been terrible, there's no denying that, and I agree with the sentiments about Teo and Lourdes. Varsho was always an excellent target, but the cost was steep. I think KK is probably one of the best centerfielders to ever play the game, but his best years were in Tampa. Throw in Springer and you have an amazingly stable outfield, but outside of Varsho can't hit the ball. That wouldn't even be so bad if they didn't go with a plethora of utility bench players to fill out the rest of the field.

Davis Schneider is the biggest impact added full time. Big fan. But if you were willing to spend hundreds of millions on Ohtani, what the f*** happened to all that money on some sort of real plan.

 

[rboomercat90]

Trying to watch the Jays and Tigers tonight. There’s a power outage of some sort tonight that’s knocked out the ability to normally broadcast the game. They’ve improvised and are using the scoreboard feed for video. The problem is they’ve decided they need audio and their solution is Shulman and Siddel are calling the game via cell phone. Their call is about 10 seconds ahead of the video so you’re hearing everything before it happens. I’ve never been more annoyed watching a sporting event in my life. Less is more. For the sake of sanity, kill the audio and just go with the video feed u til the problem is fixed.

 

[GOilers88]

Varsho just keeps pounding the ball. Hot damn.