Speculation: 2024-25 Roster thread

[Gliff]

That’s a lot of IF though. Plus, overpaying for some players that may help us make the playoffs seems shortsighted

Oh I'm not in the "we need to make the playoffs now" group.

Pesce and Roy are clear targets on the back end. Either of those guys would be the best RHD we have had since Manson's peak. They are only 29 and I would have no problem giving either of them 5 year deals.

And the RW position should be a stopgap. The Ducks don't need an 7x8 million dollar forward from UFA. They just need a guy they can be a stopgap and insulate the kids for a couple years. They can overpay anyone they want as long as it is for 1-2 years.

 

[cheesymc]

I'd don't think we get top RHD unless we give more overpayments. Pesce/Roy would want 6-7 years at 6-7 million a year to play in Anaheim. Montour would want even more and wouldn't fit well with our lineup. I think Demelo and Hakanpaa take team friendly deals to stay with their current contending clubs. Tanev will take a team friendly top contender.

We are totally going to overpay players from left field. Chatfield 4x4M for a speedy gritty minute muncher, and Desharnais 3x2.5M for beef. Both will be 28 RHDs.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Oh I'm not in the "we need to make the playoffs now" group.

Pesce and Roy are clear targets on the back end. Either of those guys would be the best RHD we have had since Manson's peak. They are only 29 and I would have no problem giving either of them 5 year deals.

And the RW position should be a stopgap. The Ducks don't need an 7x8 million dollar forward from UFA. They just need a guy they can be a stopgap and insulate the kids for a couple years. They can overpay anyone they want as long as it is for 1-2 years.

If you're not in the "we need to make the playoffs now" group, I don't see why you overpay for a 29 year old defenseman who looked pretty bad vs the Oilers.

It would also be kinda weird for Verbeek to offer Matt Roy a 5 year deal but was hesitant to sign the much better Hampus Lindholm to a long term deal.

 

[Gliff]

If you're not in the "we need to make the playoffs now" group, I don't see why you overpay for a 29 year old defenseman who looked pretty bad vs the Oilers.

It would also be kinda weird for Verbeek to offer Matt Roy a 5 year deal but was hesitant to sign the much better Hampus Lindholm to a long term deal.

Lindholm was a LHD. Lindholm had an injury history. Trading Lindholm was done at a time that helped get the 10, 2, and 3 pick. The Ducks are trying to improve now, not get worse.

I'm not going to let 5 games effect the way a player is viewed when there are like 400 career games to go off of. He has been a solid top 4 RHD for like 5 years now.

 

[duxfan1101]

If you're not in the "we need to make the playoffs now" group, I don't see why you overpay for a 29 year old defenseman who looked pretty bad vs the Oilers.

It would also be kinda weird for Verbeek to offer Matt Roy a 5 year deal but was hesitant to sign the much better Hampus Lindholm to a long term deal.

I’m pretty sure he offered Lindholm a 4 or 5 year deal, which understandably wasn’t enough for him.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Lindholm was a LHD. Lindholm had an injury history. Trading Lindholm was done at a time that helped get the 10, 2, and 3 pick. The Ducks are trying to improve now, not get worse.

I'm not going to let 5 games effect the way a player is viewed when there are like 400 career games to go off of. He has been a solid top 4 RHD for like 5 years now.

Ducks didn't need any help getting the 10,2 and 3 pick even with Lindholm those were all going to pretty much happen.

Pretty big 5 games though. Contract year, last chance for him to win with the team he spent his whole career with and he laid an egg. He has been a solid top 4 RHD but will he be when the Ducks are in the playoffs? I find it hard to believe that he will be, especially when he will have to go up against the Oilers again with a few more years and a few more miles added on.

I’m pretty sure he offered Lindholm a 4 or 5 year deal, which understandably wasn’t enough for him.

Yeah but he only has 6 years left now. So timetable wise, would almost be the same as offering Roy a 5 year deal in 2024.

 

[MMC]

The Samuelis should absolutely be telling verbeek that after this 3rd pick in the draft enough is enough. The skill is there time to compete. Zegras and macT aren’t children anymore time they are given players to succeed with. Also, enough of the waiver bin fodder and let’s bring in actual impact 4th line players( Big boss Ross Johnston still being around and inserted into the Lineup when we play tough teams is also a nice plus) this is the first season since the ducks rebuild era where I can honestly say we weren’t bullied. Johnston and gudas had a lot to do with that

Ownership being involved in hockey ops is generally not something that goes well for teams

 

[91Fedorov]

The Samuelis should absolutely be telling verbeek that after this 3rd pick in the draft enough is enough. The skill is there time to compete. Zegras and macT aren’t children anymore time they are given players to succeed with. Also, enough of the waiver bin fodder and let’s bring in actual impact 4th line players( Big boss Ross Johnston still being around and inserted into the Lineup when we play tough teams is also a nice plus) this is the first season since the ducks rebuild era where I can honestly say we weren’t bullied. Johnston and gudas had a lot to do with that

I don't think that's how good rebuilds happen. We need to wait until our core takes a real step and then add.

The Kings did that, and then they found out they missed on Turcotte and they didn't have the roster they thought they did. Look at them now. We don't know that the skill is there yet. It appears to be there, but we are still a bottom 3 team. Buying players shouldn't be how we get into the playoffs, it should be how we get into contention. Our young core hasn't shown they're ready yet and we don't really know what we have.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Sounds like Regenda is playing well for Slovakia. Really hope we give him a fair shot before he bounces to a team that will.

Edit: just realized we only had him signed through 23-24. Wonder if we give him another contract.

 

[Ducks DVM]

The Samuelis should absolutely be telling verbeek that after this 3rd pick in the draft enough is enough. The skill is there time to compete. Zegras and macT aren’t children anymore time they are given players to succeed with. Also, enough of the waiver bin fodder and let’s bring in actual impact 4th line players( Big boss Ross Johnston still being around and inserted into the Lineup when we play tough teams is also a nice plus) this is the first season since the ducks rebuild era where I can honestly say we weren’t bullied. Johnston and gudas had a lot to do with that

Do even the smallest amount of research on the Buffalo Sabres and you’ll know why this is a bad idea.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Good God Brace Yourselfs

 

[Gliff]

Oh god. How long before Mtl fans start saying he is worth less because he is irresponsible off ice because of this joke?

 

[Rybread86]

Jets are looking to sell Ehlers this summer. If you want another top 6 winger...

 

[robbieboy3686]

Jets are looking to sell Ehlers this summer. If you want another top 6 winger...

No more midgets plz

 

[MMC]

Jets are looking to sell Ehlers this summer. If you want another top 6 winger...

Not trading value for a 28 year old a year away from UFA

 

[Rybread86]

Not trading value for a 28 year old a year away from UFA

The age concerns me a bit, but the UFA status doesnt bother me as long as during the trade talks they can iron out a sign-n-trade or have a commitment from Ehlers camp of an extension.

 

[ScarTroy]

The age concerns me a bit, but the UFA status doesnt bother me as long as during the trade talks they can iron out a sign-n-trade or have a commitment from Ehlers camp of an extension.

By the time we’re competing any sign and trade with him will become an anchor. We shouldn’t just go for any top 6 winger just because they are made available. They either need to be stop gaps or young enough to be a part of our core when we are competing.

 

[Kalv]

He’s to old guys. Stamkos is the only option of the senior players available that we might go for. The killorn connection. I still think somehow some way ( trade) we get an age appropriate rh top 6 wing. That fits with the core, if things get to expensive later on I would guess this winger who will probably be the perfect fit, would stay over Terry if one needed to be traded due to cap
Issues down the road.

Not sure how important, but there is also Verbeek connection and Gudas connection. Both have spent time in Tampa.

It looks like his first option would still be Tampa and he has sounded like he's eager to win. But if we're accumulating arguments like these, perhaps we do have a shot at him

 

[Kalv]

Jets are looking to sell Ehlers this summer. If you want another top 6 winger...

Career Playoffs:
37 GP
4 G
10 A
14 P
-9

Respectfully, no.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Career Playoffs:
37 GP
4 G
10 A
14 P
-9

Respectfully, no.

At least he’s sniffed the playoffs, he’s a very good player in his own right,

14 points in 37 games played is not enough for you?

 

[Kalv]

At least he’s sniffed the playoffs, he’s a very good player in his own right,

14 points in 37 games played is not enough for you?

It's certainly 14p more than any of our core Ducklings have achieved

 

[Goose of Reason]

I would be all over Ehlers if he became available, just a perfect utility player. I haven't looked at numbers but from eye test he would have to be one of the better transition forwards in the league, and we're sorely missing the speed he would bring.

Plus he was an incredible Moosehead and I wanted him so badly in the 2014 draft. One spot ahead of Ritchie.

 

[DavidBL]

I would be all over Ehlers if he became available, just a perfect utility player. I haven't looked at numbers but from eye test he would have to be one of the better transition forwards in the league, and we're sorely missing the speed he would bring.

Plus he was an incredible Moosehead and I wanted him so badly in the 2014 draft. One spot ahead of Ritchie.

I don't think he has played a full season in awhile he's also a LW which we have a lot of.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

I don't think he has played a full season in awhile he's also a LW which we have a lot of.

Played all 82 this year, though.

 

[Gliff]

His career high is 64 points. Yes he has had injuries that have shortened seasons, but after 9 season in the NHL I think we stop using that excuse. Zegras had more points then his career high on the 2022-2023 Ducks. Ehlers is not a fit at all.

He is a LH LW that doesn't have a physical aspect, 1 year away from UFA, where he should get a hefty raise from the market.

To me he is the definition of players we DONT want to trade for. If they are going to trade assets then get guys that are good fits with the future roster, don't just get a top 6 player because he will make us better next year.

To me Brady Tkachuk is the only semi realistic (it's still not realistic because it was a rumor that he wanted out) forward that I think fits that.