End of the Avalanche?

[ameselare]

Do they want Mittelstadt back? If so, at what price point do they say no?

I believe they do, he's been a good fit and plays well on both sides of the puck. Depends on term. I would say nothing over $4M AAV for a bridge deal, nothing over $6M AAV for a long term deal.

 

[57special]

I believe they do, he's been a good fit and plays well on both sides of the puck. Depends on term. I would say nothing over $4M AAV for a bridge deal, nothing over $6M AAV for a long term deal.

Listening to the Sabres fans, those numbers are not realistic. Part of the reason that he was moved was because they expected to have to pay much more, and were reluctant to do so with the Dhalin, Power, Cozens, and TT contracts, nvm Skinner.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Doubt it.

 

[ameselare]

Listening to the Sabres fans, those numbers are not realistic. Part of the reason that he was moved was because they expected to have to pay much more, and were reluctant to do so with the Dhalin, Power, Cozens, and TT contracts, nvm Skinner.

Yikes. Well the Avs are going to need to work some magic. I don't think they find a better fit at 2C for cheaper than whatever Mitts is asking for. FWIW I think he's a great player and deserves a good contract, the Avs are just cap-strapped. I can't imagine them moving on from him unless he refuses to sign for a number that will work for the team, he fits well and they traded Byram for him.

 

[MNRube]

They have bad goaltending and ran into a team that was just better. Dallas has the best roster in the NHL. Completely stacked

 

[ameselare]

They have bad goaltending and ran into a team that was just better. Dallas has the best roster in the NHL. Completely stacked

I don't think Georgiev was the problem in that series, but they need a proven goalie to play with them, if they can afford one.

 

[Mobiandi]

They need to restructure their front office and get rid of Sakic/MacF. Someone like Dean Lombardi will have them in the mix until Makar leaves for Calgary

 

[Soedy]

Do they want Mittelstadt back? If so, at what price point do they say no?

Yep no way they traded Byram for a rental. Mittelstadt is the long term 2C solution.

 

[Avs2022]

The issue is, Bednar plays the hell out of the 1st line and 1st defensive pair. They were worn down in the playoffs. It was obvious. Get a halfway decent 2nd line after figuring out the Nuke and Landy situations, reduce the minutes of the elite players = possibly a longer playoff run.

 

[jetsforever]

They just had a great season and are still loaded with elite players
They'll be fine

 

[Freaky Styley]

The issue is, Bednar plays the hell out of the 1st line and 1st defensive pair. They were worn down in the playoffs. It was obvious. Get a halfway decent 2nd line after figuring out the Nuke and Landy situations, reduce the minutes of the elite players = possibly a longer playoff run.

regardless of the roster, just play them less. Take more losses if necessary, they didn't have home ice once anyway. There's no reason the 1st PP unit should be 75% of each powerplay.

 

[Brookbank]

Just saw that Nichushkin is signed for 8 years. Holy shit. What happens if he doesn't come back? His contract is terminated?

They will luck out and it will probably get terminated. I hope Vancouver signs him for 750 after he takes a year off in Russia again

 

[Coffey]

About to be a waste of 10 days for Edmonton in 2024.

I lied.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Started at the top. Ended up on the bottom. That's what happens with every avalanche. And the one in Colorado are no different.

 

[yeaher]

Things change quick. don't be surprised when they snack nuke back and put him LTIR following reinstatement, then maybe put Landy on IR before trade deadlined given the knee will be sore requiring undetermined amount of R&R. Then bring in Crosby and activate the other two for Game 1

 

[Dead Coyote]

They'll compliance terminate Nichushkin's contract or he'll come back and probably perform well. If Landeskog comes back too they're instantly cup favorites. They have Ritchie and Gulyayev and whoever they draft this year that could all contribute soon. Prosvetov could potentially solve their goalie issue (though unlikely). They have lots of cap coming off the books and don't have to pay Nichushkin next year so they could easily make some moves in FA depending on who hits the market.

 

[HuGo Sham]

No. They have cornerstone pieces in Makar and Nate. They need to address the secondary scoring issue with Landy and Nickushkin gone, and of course Goaltending.
I loved Drouin's bounce back year but I'd also be weary of signing him to any term beyond 2-3 years and over 4 mill

 

[TheNumber4]

Landeskog’s injury was the start of it all. Losing Kadri and other depth, not having draft picks develop, goaltending, and now the latest Nichuskin drama has closed the window in my opinion. The team has a lot of high end talent but no longer possess the depth needed to be a true contender. Dallas just showed that. The team will be good enough for the playoffs, but I think one more conference finals appearance is the ceiling unless some major re-tooling is made, which probably won’t happen with the the uncertainty of Nichuskin. If Ritchie can develop into a 2C, that would be huge for the Avs. We can’t develop players right now.

True. But the bad hockey karma that lead to Landeskog's IR issues started way before that. So you can say the Avs issues started with all the dirty head shots Landeskog threw in his career.

 

[the_fan]

Depends how badly we get screwed by the whole Val situation and if Landy is back. If the answer is very badly and no, Landy is not back then yeah, I think Avs are done, but if Val situation gets resolved and Landy is back, I think there is a chance Avs can win one more cup with this core

 

[Osakahaus]

i dont think its the end for the Avalanche, but its the end for a few notable players at the very least. If I am the Avalanche, I do everything to find a replacement for Val Nuke and Landeskog, especially when one has been in the repair shop since 2022

 

[LeBrun is a Clown]

I’ll give you a quote Bettman said when asked about the odds of the Stars being relocated years ago.

“What is a number less than zero?“

Def could see him saying that while bobbing his dead lol

 

[Bizz]

experts are still saying they'll be contenders next year. And they're mostly right. Hardly the end for them.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I like how losing to a wagon like Dallas, the team that just ousted the fully reloaded reigning champs, is somehow this massive disappointment.

And blaming their top players for a lack of production (when they were nearly a point per game) is even more comical. That Dallas squad is so stingy, it's like they were built in a lab to be impossible to score against.

Heiskanen
Lundell
Tanev
Harley
Suter
Oettinger

That's such a stacked group. Suter is the only D in their top 5 under 6'2 and he's 6'1 200lbs. They've got a perfect blend veterans and youth, with the size, speed, skill, and reliability you need to win a cup.
- Arguably the best 2 way defenseman in the league
- Two of the best shutdown defenders in hockey
- A 6'4 mobile top pairing 2 way defenseman in Harley
- A potential Hall of Famer in Suter
- One of the best playoff goalies in the league (especially on low and mid danger chances, which is perfect because Dallas allows less high danger chances than anyone)

And they've got plenty of heavy forwards with tons of size. Stankoven is the only player on the team under 6'0, and Steele and Dadonov are the only other guys <6'1.

Take all that size and defensive prowess and add a defensive minded coach like Deboer, and it's surprising that Colorado even scored 15 goals in those 6 games. McDavid and Draisaitl are in for a really tough series.

There's no shame in losing to this Dallas squad. I think they are probably the odds on favorite to win it all.

 

[Demandedace]

Damn, Landeskog, I remember when he was sidelined, I think he was supposed to come back late in the season. Didn't go as well as planned, I guess.

But yeah, having a guy like Landeskog in the lineup, given his style, would probably have helped a lot.

And yeah, the Avs need to figure what to do in both cases.

Now, is it a reason to blow the team up, lol no.

Wow, I did not realize he’s been out for THAT long. Time has been flying, but holy hell

 

[DJJones]

I mean I had them as the 2nd best western team and they'll likely be better next year.

Cores fine, tinker around the edges. They didn't even really go all in this year.