Those of you who are not afraid to admit that you will not pay another dime for anything related to the NHL if they ban or screw with fighting, please let your voice be heard.
I will not ever watch another NHL game or support the NHL in anyway if they mess with the exciting parts of the game any more than they already have. This includes fighting.
P.S. All the anti-fighting posters can go make their own thread. This is only for my people that support this aspect of the game. Thank you.
Most fans do support fighting, I do as well. It's the extreme minority that do not. Somehow their voice gets heard. To tell you the truth what they need to do is absolutely nothing. All the bleeding hearts don't care as much about protection as they do trying to minimize fights. Like really who cares if it's a staged fight? Why get your panties in a knot with that? I hope the NHLPA and the competition committee find a way to nullify these rules, it has to go through them as well and we all know how the players feel
I will not ever watch another NHL game or support the NHL in anyway if they mess with the exciting parts of the game any more than they already have. This includes fighting.
Oh well Dana White and Don King will be waiting to take your money; I'm sure. I'm a hockey fan more than a fighting fan.
I for one won't miss staged fights if they get rid of them.
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Oh well Dana White and Don King will be waiting to take your money; I'm sure. I'm a hockey fan more than a fighting fan.
I for one won't miss staged fights if they get rid of them.
How, they aren't hurting anyone? They are also entertaining. Why does it bother "fans" so much that some people love fighting and want to keep it in the game.
I can take or leave the staged fights (they are, for lack of a better word....silly) but the "heat of the moment" fights are legit....
that said...ANYONE who would boycott hockey, at all, if they try to get rid of fighting is just not a hockey fan......and you wont be missed
Fighting has been a big part of Hockey for centuries.
Who are you to tell someone they wouldn't be a true fan if they boycotted the NHL (he never said hockey, he said the NHL) if they implement changes that drastically change the sport?
I can take or leave the staged fights (they are, for lack of a better word....silly) but the "heat of the moment" fights are legit....
that said...ANYONE who would boycott hockey, at all, if they try to get rid of fighting is just not a hockey fan......and you wont be missed
Actually, most of the people who would boycott the sport are actually the original hockey fans. Many former hockey players don't even watch the game anymore and many old school fans don't even think this is hockey we are playing now.
Fighting has been a big part of Hockey for centuries.
Who are you to tell someone they wouldn't be a true fan if they boycotted the NHL (he never said hockey, he said the NHL) if they implement changes that drastically change the sport?
The sport has changed drastically more than a few times and I doubt anyone left because of it.
How, they aren't hurting anyone? They are also entertaining. Why does it bother "fans" so much that some people love fighting and want to keep it in the game.
It doesn't bother me that he loves fighting.... I don't care.
But if you wanna boycott the sport cause they get rid of an insignificant part of it (the staged fight... not the Iginla-Lecavalier SCF passion of the moment fight)... well then I have to question if you truly love the sport.
There is so much more to love about hockey than the 2 minutes in a 3hour game where two goons who get next to no icetime and are liabilities on the ice for the most part square off for a staged showdown that everyone knew was coming before the game started and very rarely has any effect on who wins and loses a hockey game.
I'm just suggesting that if that 2minutes of fight action is so important to you and much more valuable than anything else that happens in the game, such as goals, hits, saves, dekes, nice passes, etc... then maybe hockey isn't the sport for you afterall. And there are alternatives like boxing and MMA.
It doesn't bother me that he loves fighting.... I don't care.
But if you wanna boycott the sport cause they get rid of an insignificant part of it (the staged fight... not the Iginla-Lecavalier SCF passion of the moment fight)... well then I have to question if you truly love the sport.
There is so much more to love about hockey than the 2 minutes in a 3hour game where two goons who get next to no icetime and are liabilities on the ice for the most part square off for a staged showdown that everyone knew was coming before the game started and very rarely has any effect on who wins and loses a hockey game.
The sport has changed drastically more than a few times and I doubt anyone left because of it.
They've never removed an aspect such as fighting, you know this, I know this. Referring to minor changes made to increase scoring, etc... has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
Put it this way, the NHL will lose more fans that enjoy the physical aspect of the game fighting brings then they will gain by abolishing it.
Put it this way, the NHL will lose more fans that enjoy the physical aspect of the game fighting brings then they will gain by abolishing it.
No study has ever proven this to be true. I counter that there a lot of potential fans out there who will never give watching hockey a chance cause its a sport that allows fighting.
In the bolded part of his first post.... In the part of his post that i quoted.
Its right there man.
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Originally Posted by LuigiStone
I will not ever watch another NHL game or support the NHL in anyway if they mess with the exciting parts of the game any more than they already have. This includes fighting.
How, they aren't hurting anyone? They are also entertaining. Why does it bother "fans" so much that some people love fighting and want to keep it in the game.
I would very much dispute the bolded part. I personally don't care much for fighting, but realize that if the players like it, GM's like it, coaches like it,and most fans like it, you've got to keep it, but saying that a fight between 2 heavyweights is entertaining is going too far in my opinion. Most often, its a game of grabjersey, with a swing thrown per fighter that is off the mark entirely.If I want to watch a heavyweight fight, I'll watch Fedor instead, MUCH more entertaning, and I'd rather leave hockey fights to the players who can play hockey. The line-brawl types, such as this:
Pacioretty he said the NHL not hockey. I loved hockey in the 90's where there were big hits, goals, passes and games didnt decide on the power play like they do now. Now you'll get a penalty for just looking at a guy, leave fighting alone.
The more fights there are, the more chances there are for serious injuries and death. The players are getting bigger and stronger and some are there only to fight. I would love for you to stop watching hockey, please do it and while your at it delete your HFboards account. Toodles!
why don't they focus on making it safer? if you purposely take a guy down, that should be a penalty. if one guy fights with a visor and the other doesn't, the fight should be stopped before his helmet comes off, and if the guy with a visor started it, he should get a penalty. if both guys wear visors and they fight, as long as the helmets don't come off let it go, they both get 5. who cares if it's a "staged" fight? a fight is a fight is a fight.
They've never removed an aspect such as fighting, you know this, I know this. Referring to minor changes made to increase scoring, etc... has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
Put it this way, the NHL will lose more fans that enjoy the physical aspect of the game fighting brings then they will gain by abolishing it.
In the 1900s there were 7 men on the ice for each team.
In the 1930s forward passes in the offensive zone were prohibited.
In 1959 Jacques Plante introduced the goalie mask.
Prior to the lockout games could end in ties... there was no such thing as a shootout.
All of these are just as big, if not bigger changes than removing the staged fights. So no they aren't changing the game that much. The game is constantly evolving and no I don't believe that removing staged fights would be the biggest change in the history of the sport.
As for the staged fights off the face/off they are a relatively new phenomenom and weren't something that was regularly seen in the league prior to the introduction of the instigator rule in the early 90s. The 70s and 80s had their share of enforcers, they had their share of fights... but they didn't have these off the faceoff lets go type fights that we see today. Most came during the course of play.
The more fights there are, the more chances there are for serious injuries and death. The players are getting bigger and stronger and some are there only to fight. I would love for you to stop watching hockey, please do it and while your at it delete your HFboards account. Toodles!
Jeez, then ban hitting, which result in more serious injuries than fighting ever has.
If the NHL implements these recommendations, I see more borderline hits, stickwork and overall dirty play. It happened with the instigator penalty and it will only become worse if the recommendations are adopted as rules for next season.
Pacioretty he said the NHL not hockey. I loved hockey in the 90's where there were big hits, goals, passes and games didnt decide on the power play like they do now. Now you'll get a penalty for just looking at a guy, leave fighting alone.
1) You think if the NHL gets rid of it, the junior leagues won't follow suit?? Really??
2) The NHL is the top hockey league in the world, if you are willing to boycott it because of the absence of fighting then i have to question if you are really a fan of the game. Change everything in my post from hockey to NHL... its really just semantics that you are playing at here. The NHL game is so much more than the 2 minute staged fight that happens less than once per game on average.
I don't think there's many hockey fans who'd boycott the NHL for penalizing staged fights more severely. I think its great they're finally doing something about these slugs. You want to see a real fighter, go watch some old Wendel Clark videos. Nothing staged or fake about what he did, and for the most part he wouldn't be affected by these rules.
Jeez, then ban hitting, which result in more serious injuries than fighting ever has.
If the NHL implements these recommendations, I see more borderline hits, stickwork and overall dirty play. It happened with the instigator penalty and it will only become worse if the recommendations are adopted as rules for next season.
I disagree... there are other deterents to dirty play than just fighting.... Crack down on the stickwork with penalties and suspensions too.
We've seen that with the increase in minor penalties the amount of clutching, grabbing, hooking and holding post-lockout has gone down. Continue to make the calls, give out tougher suspensions for dirty plays like hitting from behind, head shots, and really dirty stickwork that is intended to injure.... and you'll get rid of those.
This isn't the 50s anymore. At that point the goons were necessary to enforce the code so that those dirty plays that didn't get detected by the referee on the ice were punished. Now we have dozens and dozens of cameras on the ice at every game. Its rare that players get away with something extremely dirty behind the play. Even if its not called by one of the 4 officials on the ice... its still caught by the cameras and is grounds for suspension.
