I think they both hover around the same level of potential and skill. Getzlaf will end up putting up more points because of the lack of scoring depth on the Ducks. Carter should get 75pts this season if he continues where he left off from last year. Carter is the better skater, with a much smoother stride and I can't really decide who's better defensively yet, probably Carter.
I just watched PHI-WSH game 3 and man, Carter just came out flying and was EVERYWHERE.
Getzlaf is given more opportunities playing with the Ducks. He plays on their first line, and first power play unit. With the depth the Flyers have at center, Carter has been a 3rd line center on the 2nd player play unit.
Here's a good question. Is playing with the Flyers holding Carters potential back?
Coming out of junior I thought it would be Carter, but as of right now it's not that close. Getzlaf. In the future? It will be tough to compare if Getzlaf is a number one guy and Carter is always playing second or third fiddle to Richards and Briere.
Despite playing 2nd\3rd line minutes, Carter's TOI is just about even with Getz. Drastic difference in team offensive distribution, Anaheim is grossly top heavy while the Flyers may have the best offensive distribution in the league amongst their forwards. This argument can't be used against Carter when comparing 2 centermen's skill sets - I can easily see him putting up 75pts this year (remember how many posts he hit last season?) I can't just say, "Getzlaf and it's not even close" - it's just not all that accurate. Carter will shine this year.
Getzlaf now. In terms of potential, I think it will get close in the future.
Carter is stronger defensively from what I've seen, but Getz is much more creative offensively. Carter has speed, size, and a great shot, but really has no moves in close. I'd like to see him work on that, and getting his shot on net. If he can do that, he'll hit at least 40 goals.
Both are great players and any team would be lucky to have either of them. Ryan is much further along in his developement just like Richards is further along than Carter too. However, as good as both Mike and Ryan are, Carter will be better than them both. Carter is just beginning to understand that he can literally take over any game and nobody can stop him. Carter showed us glimpses of this last season and if he ever learns to develope than on a consistant basis he will become a perenial allstar. Ryan and Mike will be great players, Carter has the POTENTIAL to be dominant. I'll take my chances with Carter. Carter could become a more finess version of Eric Lindros.
To turn this around a bit, lets alter this question a bit and see if you would rather have Mike Richards or Ryan Getzlaf? You could od this as an "If you were the Ducks" question since it would be then having to take a guy that was actually drafted later than who they chose.
Ryan Getzlaf - 1st round (19th overall) in the 2003 NHL Entry Draft
Or, you could do it as :Which set of 1st rnd selections would you rather have, the ones Philly made (Carter 11th and Richards 24th) or the Ducks (Getzlaf 19th and Perry 28th)?"
To turn this around a bit, lets alter this question a bit and see if you would rather have Mike Richards or Ryan Getzlaf? You could od this as an "If you were the Ducks" question since it would be then having to take a guy that was actually drafted later than who they chose.
Ryan Getzlaf - 1st round (19th overall) in the 2003 NHL Entry Draft
Or, you could do it as :Which set of 1st rnd selections would you rather have, the ones Philly made (Carter 11th and Richards 24th) or the Ducks (Getzlaf 19th and Perry 28th)?"
Personally, I stick with the ones we drafted.
This isn't a time to argue over the 2003 draft. Instead, let's find common ground and laugh at Hugh Jessiman.
The thing that separates Getzlaf (aside from him being considerably better right now) is his toughness. The guy isn't a huge hitter or great fighter, but at least he gets his nose dirty. Carter is soft. I take Getzlaf all day long over Carter.
right now getzlaf and probably in the future too...power forwards with his size (6'3" 230lbs), grit, & skill set are few and far between...while he has the advantage of playing on a much better team to start his career you still have to say he he way ahead at this point...
carter would need to have a vinny cav type of formation physically t
If anybody accuses all Flyers fans of being homers, they should be directed to this thread, because I think the majority of us would go with Getzlaf now, and possibly in the future still. I think they'll both top out at around the same level, so the Flyers would do well to have either one.
But, as far as the Carter/Richards vs. Perry/Getzlaf debate goes, I would rather have the combo we have now, and in the future. Again, it's a similarly near equal debate, but Richards having been born to be the captain of the Flyers puts our guys over the top. OK, that's the homerism coming back.
Carter vs Getzlaf, Lupul vs Penner,,,,, is a Richards versus Perry coming? How about Knuble versus Kunitz???
Lol, are we into Philly forwards versus Cup winning Anaheim forwards?
To answer the question tho, I think one unique attribute all four of those listed Anaheim guys had was TOUGHNESS in addition to skill.
Anaheim won that year cuz top to bottom, they beat and terrrified their opponents as well as outscored them.
Do Philly forwards match those guys in size, intimidation, toughness?
(i dont know the answer, i am asking)
(i'll xpost this on the other thread cuz it's relevant)
The answer is yes, the Flyers forwards do match the Anaheim forwards in terms of toughness. After the Pittsburgh game where Carter handed Ryan Whitney's backside to him, Carter's game elevated to another level. Richards is not afraid to throw down the gloves and chuck knuckles and Lupul lead the team in hits.
Someone on here said Carter was soft and I had a good chuckle at that. He's not a banger like Getzlaf, but he's not afraid of contact either. In the playoffs, Carter was excellent. Like others on here, this year should be Carter's leap year to stardom.
