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02-05-2008, 01:51 PM
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Does the Southeast deserve a playoff spot?

Current Eastern Conference standings:

1 Ottawa Senators* --68
2 Philadelphia Flyers*--63
3 Carolina Hurricanes*-56
4 Montréal Canadiens -65
5 New Jersey Devils --63
6 Pittsburgh Penguins-63
7 New York Rangers --60
8 Boston Bruins ------59

9 Atlanta Thrashers --56
10 New York Islanders 54
11 Buffalo Sabres ----53


It's very possible that NYI or Buffalo finishes with a top 8 record but does not make the playoffs. Should the NHL change its rules so that the winner of an incompetent division does not make the playoffs, or should they keep it as is? I think they should guarantee the team a playoff spot, but that they aren't confined to the top 3.

For example, Carolina in this scenario would be the 8th seed. It's unfair that the 6th seed currently has a better matchup than the 5th, because #4 is likely a good team that isn't able to knock off the conference winner.
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I still think Carolina can do some damage in the playoffs.
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Short answer, no.
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Funny, the Southeast beat two of Canada's teams to win the cup, so I say yes, they do deserve a spot.
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I say they deserve 8th spot at minimum, just not the automatic third.
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yes, thats the way the current system is set up.
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Of course. If you win your division you make the playoffs. Simple as that.

This is what we like to call an "automatic berth".
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The way the system is set up, the team that wins the division deserves their spot. Doesn't matter if the division is weak, they still have to win their games and that's anything other than a given in the new parity filled NHL.

It will be interesting to see how the team that wins the SE does in the post season. Probably isn't that far fetched to think that a few teams will be underestimating them.
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02-05-2008, 01:57 PM
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How often do we need this topic?
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According to the NHL rulebook, yes, it does. Last time I checked, leagues tend to go by their rulebooks.
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Funny, the Southeast beat two of Canada's teams to win the cup, so I say yes, they do deserve a spot.
ya that is funny.. how long ago was that now? So you're basing this year's southeast team's performances on what was going on in that division 2 years ago? That makes a lot of sense. Bottom line is that without that guaranteed 3rd spot, the whole division is out of the playoffs. (For now) The rules need changed.
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Yes, and its absurd to say they don't with the current unbalanced schedule system.

If there was a balanced schedule, and all teams were on equal footing with regard to the opponents the face, then this argument has merit, but until that happens, it does not.
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Funny, the Southeast beat two of Canada's teams to win the cup, so I say yes, they do deserve a spot.
And that applies this season how exactly?

I say give the division winners playoff berths but slot the 8 teams by point totals. The SE winner certainly doesn't deserve home ice this year.
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ya that is funny.. how long ago was that now? So you're basing this year's southeast team's performances on what was going on in that division 2 years ago? That makes a lot of sense. Bottom line is that without that guaranteed 3rd spot, the whole division is out of the playoffs. (For now) The rules need changed.
Cry me a river.
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Until the issue gets adressed? Not that WE are going to change anything, but it IS a frustrating situation.
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May as well completely get rid of divisions and just have 2 conferances then.
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the way the rules are now... they deserve it...
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Should the NHL change its rules so that the winner of an incompetent division does not make the playoffs, or should they keep it as is? I think they should guarantee the team a playoff spot, but that they aren't confined to the top 3.
I dont think incompetent is the correct word to use there. The southeast has some of the best talent in the league and also a couple of cups to prove it.

Are you just upset because your NY teams might not make it? then tell them to win some games.
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Every five days apparently.

OP, you do know it is still February right? 30+ games remaining?
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It's based on the fact that you play your own division more often than anyone else.

So in theory you could have a division with a lot of strong teams that beat up on each others records over the course of a season.
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The only standings that matter are the ones at the end of the season. We aren't there yet.
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The only standings that matter are the ones at the end of the season. We aren't there yet.
I thought the end of the season was when Crosby got hurt?

Sorry, it was bound to happen eventually....
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Given their brutal start and big turnaround, i'd say the Thrashers do.

Carolina's gotten pretty sad through injuries. And Cam Ward may be a one-playoff wonder and not the second coming of Patrick Roy afterall.

Tampa Bay is brutal, just brutal.

Florida is hard to get a handle on. One game they look great, the next awful. Vokoun helps them out a lot though. But doesn't Jokinen want out now? Ouch.

And Washington might deserve a shot too. Only because Ovechkin would be fun to watch. Scoring a ton of goals and carrying his team on his back while going out in the first round.
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02-05-2008, 02:34 PM
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They don't even deserve teams...
Then who does? The seal hunters of Nunavut?

And no rules need changing. They win their division, they get a playoff berth. Sounds fair to me. Just because the Gateway Conference in NCAA basketball sucks doesn't mean they should get their automatic bid for the conference champion taken away.

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