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02-03-2008, 11:04 PM
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2009 Draft VS 2010 Draft?

There's been a lot of hype the last couple of years about the potential of the 2009 Draft Class. It's supposed to be possible one of the deepest drafts in history. And I realize there are some franchise caliber players such as Tavares,Hedman,Cowan,etc. But it seems like the 2010 draft class could be better. I was just curious to see what some others thought. Either way the NHL's future looks very bright. Some of the most notable names for '10 as of now are listed below.
1. Teemu Pulkkinen- Could be the best Finish prospect ever.Potential Superstar scorer. Finland's version of Kovalchuk.
2. John McFarland- Almost granted exceptional player status by the CHL. Potential 40-50 goal scorer.
3. Brandon Gormley- Possible one of the best offensive D-men too come around in long time. I heard a comparism to Paul Coffey although not as good a skater.
4. John Merrill- Possible a young Chris Pronger. Franchise D-men. Could be one of the best american prospects of all-time by '10.
5. Kirill Kabanov- Potential Superstar.Could be the best russian player since Ovechkin and Malkin.
6. Taylor Hall- Another potential superstar. He has been compared to a Canadian Pavel Bure. Could be the most electric player since Ovechkin.
7. Cam Fowler- Potential franchise defenseman. Will battle Gormley and Merrill for top D-man in this class. Another American prospect.
8. Mikael Granlund- Another Potential Star from Finland. Although as of now very small player is very skilled. And could rise of rankings very easily as time goes on.
9. Riku Harma- Don't know that much about him except that he's very short (I think 5'6) but time will tell. Finland is known for developing goaltenders and this kis could be a sleeper.
Some other notables that I didn't mention. Maxim Kitsyn,Victor Ohman.

I made this thread a while back, but I'd like to add some more names to the 2010 list of players to keep an eye on.

Adam Pettersson- Highest scoring U16 Swede ever
Johan Gustafsson- Could be next great Swedish goalie prospect
Janos Hari- Don't know much about him except he is supposed to be extremely good and could rise to the top of 2010 draft charts by then.
Mark Pysyk
Erik Gudbranson

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02-03-2008, 11:11 PM
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McFarland is good, but I'm not even close to being sold on him. I think he might be in for a rude awakening in the OHL
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Ryan "Full" Howse in 09 watch out for him, started slow in the WHL this year but gettin things going now
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02-03-2008, 11:24 PM
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I totally agree with you fatum. McFarland has never played for a bad team. Hes playing for the #1 Minor Midget team in NA. Put him on an average team and see how he does. I still think he would do really good but would he produce as much as he does now? I play MM AAA also ive seen him play dont get me wrong he is a ridculous hockey player but cocky but its understandable when your that good. Im interested to see how he does.
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02-03-2008, 11:30 PM
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Yeah, lots of players get a lot of hype when they are 3 years from being drafted. It is so hard to tell who will continue thier remarkable progress and who will let off the gas pedal.
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Yeah, lots of players get a lot of hype when they are 3 years from being drafted. It is so hard to tell who will continue thier remarkable progress and who will let off the gas pedal.
Exactly there are some players who crack in the ohl that are really hyped about and then those that are under the radar that bloom. But good for him to get his name out already impressive. I dont understand how you guys get these names with 2-3 years before draft day.
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the 09 draft looks stronger right now, but who knows.. i bet we havent even heard of half the guys that will be selected in the 1st round in 2010...
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At of those prospects, Taylor Hall is the one i'm leaning towards teh most, he's only 16 but already has 26 goals, and 50 points for the Windsor Spitfires, I'd say he has the most potential of beng the 1st overall pick in 2010

Stamkos 1st overall(canadian) 2008
Tavares 1st overall(canadian) 2009
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02-04-2008, 02:39 AM
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For Sweden it looks that 2009>>>2010.

For 2009 TOP 5 is
1.V.Hedman
2.M.Svensson-Paajarvi
3.A.Lander
4.W.Wallen
5.A.Myllari

For 2010 the best prospect- Victor Ohman isn't as good as Wallen or even Jacob Josefson who is #6 for 2010.
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02-04-2008, 02:58 PM
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For Sweden it looks that 2009>>>2010.

For 2009 TOP 5 is
1.V.Hedman
2.M.Svensson-Paajarvi
3.A.Lander
4.W.Wallen
5.A.Myllari

For 2010 the best prospect- Victor Ohman isn't as good as Wallen or even Jacob Josefson who is #6 for 2010.
Is that so? I don't really know a lot about Victor Ohman. I just heard that he was good prospect for 2010. He's 6'2 192 at 15 so I know he's got some size but thats really all I know. He has a little scouting report on Elite prospects.com but its not very informative. I've also been hearing about Gabriel Landeskog? What are your impressions of him? He is also 1992 born. I've also been hearing a lot of hype for Adam Larsson. A late 1992 born he isn't eligible until 2011. But I've heard besides Hedman and possibly Paarjarvi that Larsson is the most promising swede on the horizon. anyone have any thoughts on that for me? Also how good is A. Lander he's another one who could be a good one
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Adam Larsson is supposed to be SICK!!!!!!!!
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Is that so? I don't really know a lot about Victor Ohman. I just heard that he was good prospect for 2010. He's 6'2 192 at 15 so I know he's got some size but thats really all I know. He has a little scouting report on Elite prospects.com but its not very informative. I've also been hearing about Gabriel Landeskog? What are your impressions of him? He is also 1992 born. I've also been hearing a lot of hype for Adam Larsson. A late 1992 born he isn't eligible until 2011. But I've heard besides Hedman and possibly Paarjarvi that Larsson is the most promising swede on the horizon. anyone have any thoughts on that for me? Also how good is A. Lander he's another one who could be a good one
Landeskog is late 1992 born, same with Larsson, Adam Pettersson, Daniel Mannberg, Viktor Mangs. They are TOP prospects for 2011 draft along with Adam Svensson, Viktor Rask, Jacob Wulcan(6'1/200 forward, 1993 born) and Karl Johansson.

Haven't seen any of them, just what I heard.

Larsson is really impressive for a 2011 draft, he is already 6'2/201 and his stats are just crazy for almost 93 born defenseman.

As for 2010, look out for Ohman, Johan Gustafsson(Seen him, big goalie, already played some Allsvenskan games), Felix Liljegren(Forward 6'4/210 already, and can skate), Jacob Berglund(Another big forward 6'0/198), Sebastian Dyk(small, puck wizard), and a couple of 6'2 forwards in Cris Cunningham and Ludvig Rensfeldt(Best 92 born at TV Pucken).
Good group, but clearly weaker than 2009.

Lander is great 2-way forward. He had a very succesful U18 WC in August, where Team Sweden won gold. He has good chemistry with Paajarvi, pretty good size(6'0/180), and is over a PPG in SEL J20. PLayed some games for senior team. In preseason he was given big minutes and produced for Timre senior Team.

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There's been a lot of hype the last couple of years about the potential of the 2009 Draft Class. It's supposed to be possible one of the deepest drafts in history. And I realize there are some franchise caliber players such as Tavares,Hedman,Cowan,etc. But it seems like the 2010 draft class could be better. I was just curious to see what some others thought. Either way the NHL's future looks very bright. Some of the most notable names for '10 as of now are listed below.
1. Teemu Pulkkinen- Could be the best Finish prospect ever.Potential Superstar scorer. Finland's version of Kovalchuk.
2. John McFarland- Almost granted exceptional player status by the CHL. Potential 40-50 goal scorer.
3. Brandon Gormley- Possible one of the best offensive D-men too come around in long time. I heard a comparism to Paul Coffey although not as good a skater.
4. John Merrill- Possible a young Chris Pronger. Franchise D-men. Could be one of the best american prospects of all-time by '10.
5. Kirill Kabanov- Potential Superstar.Could be the best russian player since Ovechkin and Malkin.
6. Taylor Hall- Another potential superstar. He has been compared to a Canadian Pavel Bure. Could be the most electric player since Ovechkin.
7. Cam Fowler- Potential franchise defenseman. Will battle Gormley and Merrill for top D-man in this class. Another American prospect.
8. Mikael Granlund- Another Potential Star from Finland. Although as of now very small player is very skilled. And could rise of rankings very easily as time goes on.
9. Riku Harma- Don't know that much about him except that he's very short (I think 5'6) but time will tell. Finland is known for developing goaltenders and this kis could be a sleeper.
Some other notables that I didn't mention. Maxim Kitsyn,Victor Ohman.
What does "almost" mean? He applied for exceptional status and was rejected. The OHL/CHL made no comment on the matter, and did not even publicly acknowledge his application.

As for his potential as a "40-50 goal scorer" in the NHL, he's not even the leading scorer on his minor midget team.
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As for his potential as a "40-50 goal scorer" in the NHL, he's not even the leading scorer on his minor midget team.
Who is leading them? Balisy? Toffoli? McNaughton?
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At of those prospects, Taylor Hall is the one i'm leaning towards teh most, he's only 16 but already has 26 goals, and 50 points for the Windsor Spitfires, I'd say he has the most potential of beng the 1st overall pick in 2010

Stamkos 1st overall(canadian) 2008
Tavares 1st overall(canadian) 2009
Hall 1st overall (canadian) 2010
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A Canadian is a lock for 2008 IMHO, other than that 2009 could definately be Hedman and 2010 is more than likely Pulkkinen.
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Ryan "Full" Howse in 09 watch out for him, started slow in the WHL this year but gettin things going now
Fantastic player...but we have to do something about that nickname.
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The original poster reminds me alot of myself at a younger age for some reason.

He's going on hearsay from the boards.
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Hedman's the only one with a chance to overtake Tavares who is so far out in front of the rest of the pack it's not even funny any more. With back to back 130+ points seasons in the OHL in combination with a possible run to the Memorial Cup this year, Tavares should have a mortal hold on 1st overall for 2009. As for Hall in 2010, it's all about how well he leads Windsor in the next two years. He could finish with as much as 70 points as a 16 year-old in the OHL this year. Hall plays the game too well to not be a top three pick. Besides, the 2010 NHL Entry Draft is 28 months away, it's way to early to bet on a number one.
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The original poster reminds me alot of myself at a younger age for some reason.

He's going on hearsay from the boards.
At a younger age? In a different thread you posted this about Pulkkinen
"I've heard alot about him but I really haven't seen him." In this thread you state that he's most likely going to be the first pick in the 2010 draft. I would say the original poster is very reminiscent of you today. He's great at ranking players without ever actually having seen them play.
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A Canadian is a lock for 2008 IMHO, other than that 2009 could definately be Hedman and 2010 is more than likely Pulkkinen.
More than likely? It's two and a half years off.

Remember when Joensuu was "more than likely" to be a top pick? Or Alexander Vasyunov? Or Patrice Cormier?
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More than likely? It's two and a half years off.

Remember when Joensuu was "more than likely" to be a top pick? Or Alexander Vasyunov? Or Patrice Cormier?
No kidding.

I'd put my money on the kid thats already taking the OHL by storm, then the kid in Finland who is dominating Jr. B. Hall was the most impressive forward in the World U17 challenge, IMO. The kid has lights out speed, an already incredible shot and scoring prowess. He does it all offensively, he is gonna be a very special player, I haven't seen a whole lot of Pullkinen, but has history suggests, Finnish players that have been hyped early on in the past, really haven't amounted to much yet (Tukkonen - everyone thought was a steal, Joenssu - a 1st overall favourite at 16, fell like a rock). I am not suprised by Finnerican tho, 132 pts in the OHL is "dissapointing" to him.
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How does goalie Maxime Clermont of the Gatineau Olympiques rank with the rest of these names? Anyone?
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There's been a lot of hype the last couple of years about the potential of the 2009 Draft Class. It's supposed to be possible one of the deepest drafts in history. And I realize there are some franchise caliber players such as Tavares,Hedman,Cowan,etc. But it seems like the 2010 draft class could be better. I was just curious to see what some others thought. Either way the NHL's future looks very bright. Some of the most notable names for '10 as of now are listed below.
1. Teemu Pulkkinen- Could be the best Finish prospect ever.Potential Superstar scorer. Finland's version of Kovalchuk.
2. John McFarland- Almost granted exceptional player status by the CHL. Potential 40-50 goal scorer.
3. Brandon Gormley- Possible one of the best offensive D-men too come around in long time. I heard a comparism to Paul Coffey although not as good a skater.
4. John Merrill- Possible a young Chris Pronger. Franchise D-men. Could be one of the best american prospects of all-time by '10.
5. Kirill Kabanov- Potential Superstar.Could be the best russian player since Ovechkin and Malkin.
6. Taylor Hall- Another potential superstar. He has been compared to a Canadian Pavel Bure. Could be the most electric player since Ovechkin.
7. Cam Fowler- Potential franchise defenseman. Will battle Gormley and Merrill for top D-man in this class. Another American prospect.
8. Mikael Granlund- Another Potential Star from Finland. Although as of now very small player is very skilled. And could rise of rankings very easily as time goes on.
9. Riku Harma- Don't know that much about him except that he's very short (I think 5'6) but time will tell. Finland is known for developing goaltenders and this kis could be a sleeper.
Some other notables that I didn't mention. Maxim Kitsyn,Victor Ohman.

very good list, I too am very excited about Merrill...This kid COULD be our Pronger like stated, but 2 years is a long time for a dman especially. Look at Teubert and Del Zotto now..both have fallen from once very promising heights. Both still great prospects who should go first round, but 2 years a difference can make.

Dont forget about Luke Moffat. A lot of people say he is the real deal, others say he will fall, but either way he will be a big name that everyone will know within the next year to a year and a half. Should be top 10, but again anything can happen.
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A Canadian is a lock for 2008 IMHO, other than that 2009 could definately be Hedman and 2010 is more than likely Pulkkinen.
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