He is rated 8.0 B on hockey futures which is really good, but thats at the same level as Kane and others in Kane's level or Towes, so i was wondering what level of prospect is he, like i never really heard of him being put in the same level as Towes or Kane, are there any comparable guys out there ?
I would say from the one game a 10 , but overall I would say a 7.5. To me he has everything that Kane has but just at a pace slower. If that makes any sense
Still don't see him as a first line talent. Originally thought he wouldn't be more than a skilled 3rd liner but he's looking like a second line talent so far. I made a Vyborny style comparison a while ago, his game reminds me of David's.
I don't see the offensive flair of a Kane in Tlusty but he looks to have really solid allround 2nd liner potential.He doesn't look to have one particular part of his game that makes a fan go "WOW" but he appears sound in all areas and demonstrates keen hockey sense.
Not sure where that puts him in terms of HF prospect rating.
Still don't see him as a first line talent. Originally thought he wouldn't be more than a skilled 3rd liner but he's looking like a second line talent so far. I made a Vyborny style comparison a while ago, his game reminds me of David's.
thats a pretty good comparison
tho i see alot of hossa in him but that could be just me
Pretty hard to judge at this point, but I think he could reach first line levels. Nice to see him and some of the young kids getting some burn-- if this year is to be a loss, and it very well might be, I'd at least like to say that our young core developed substantially.
I would say from the one game a 10 , but overall I would say a 7.5. To me he has everything that Kane has but just at a pace slower. If that makes any sense
You really think that Jiri Tlusty has everything that Kane has, but a pace slower?
Really?
How many times have you watched Tlusty to play, out of curiosity?
You really think that Jiri Tlusty has everything that Kane has, but a pace slower?
Really?
How many times have you watched Tlusty to play, out of curiosity?
Yes I do.
As for the second question I have probably seen around 7 games. What can I say, the kid impressed me.
Now, do you plan on contributing an opinion on Tlusty yourself?
He is rated 8.0 B on hockey futures which is really good, but thats at the same level as Kane and others in Kane's level or Towes, so i was wondering what level of prospect is he, like i never really heard of him being put in the same level as Towes or Kane, are there any comparable guys out there ?
Since I'm ever so fond of being the resident contrarian I really couldn't resist this thread.
In the prospect rating thread a month or so ago, I had him pegged at a 6.5C
My opinion hasn't changed substantially since then, based primarily on last season with light input on what little I've seen of him before/since then.
My own personal amatuer scouting report-
Positives: Very smooth off-ice adjustment to North America, nice wrist shot-strong and accurate, decent skater with excellent acceleration and good mobility, can recieve a pass smoothly at full speed. Above average puck handler. Capable playmaker. Has shown rare flashes of brilliance when he plays with intensity.
Seems like a mature guy- adjusted remarkably well to Canada, had glowing reports about his off-ice maturity, and handled himself well when thrust into pro-hockey at 17 in Kladno.
Negatives: Physically immature relative to other players his age, inconsistent, his work ethic leaves something to be desired. He has absolutely no defensive game at all. Seldom shows any desire to involve himself physically, depsite a game that seems to be well suited to it on the rare occasions he steps up. Doesn't always make the best decisions with the puck. His mental game is lagging behind his physical skills. His positioning and ability to read the D leave a lot to be desired.
Can be pressured into giving up the puck easily.
NHL Bust- Scoring 3rd liner. If everything goes ideally maybe he'll peak out as a 2nd line candidate but he's got a lot to work on if that's to happen even if the raw talent seems to be there.
I was extremely disappointed in his play in the Soo last season. The overly glorified projections are based largely on his draft position IMO, and less on his actual play since.
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6.5 C ?, lol that woudl make him unlikely to become a 3rd line player, lol, are you on something, the kid hasnt even played a full year in the AHL or OHl, he was injured like 7.5B maybe but thats a little to low.
Indeed, instead of flat out criticizing or laughing at someone else's opinions, why not pool opinions together and see which points are concensus and which are more out to lunch?
I like Tlusty. I think he's a pretty solid prospect that has the potential to be a top six player.
However, I don't think he's that close yet. The biggest weakness in his game right now besides defense is his mental game.
Tlusty rarely plays a game top to bottom where he puts the entire package of his game together. He's prone to getting rattled, or simply losing focus, and sleep walks through stretches of games. His patience, descion making and work ethic take hits. It's mental, he just doesn't deliver the consistent effort you'd like to see in a top prospect. Right now, he relies on his talent over hard work when he's off his game, and that, to me, is the only troubling thing about his development at this point. Talent-wise, he's got an excellent wrist shot, has some creativity to go with pretty decent puck skills and uses his solid first-step to get a jump on people. Because of his creativity, I think he has the potential, with good coaching and a team that supports him with complimentary linemates, he could develop into a decent playmaker, though right now he prefers to keep the puck rather then making plays, I think there is potential there for moe.
For that to really work, there are things that need to improve and be taught. At his age, and at the stage of development he's at, this needs to be done in the AHL, IMO. A big concern is his physical play, he's lagging behind his peers. While it is an issue, because of his young age and the amount he has left to learn, there's simply hope he can tackle this problem. Perhaps this is a product of inexperience but he certainly needs to add some edge to his game and he needs to develop a physical edge to be succesful at the NHL level. In a word, it comes down to intensity. At his very best he plays with a sense of urgency, but that sense of urgency comes and goes. He needs to find away to play every shift like that.
He is rated 8.0 B on hockey futures which is really good, but thats at the same level as Kane and others in Kane's level or Towes, so i was wondering what level of prospect is he, like i never really heard of him being put in the same level as Towes or Kane, are there any comparable guys out there ?
hes in the NHL be happy ..hes on a better team by mile .let him develop with 20 minutes of ice a night an u can compare.polotics kept tlusty from starting with the leafs .my guess hed have 6-8 points by now
hes offensive onn a team that can score ......
, but overall I would say a 7.5. To me he has everything that Kane has but just at a pace slower. If that makes any sense
