Dupuis is still an interchangable third liner who could have been picked up for nothing, while Bourret is still a former first rounder with some potential left.
Ha. It is funny. Oh but you left out the part where he bruised his shoulder before the White vs Blue game which was the reason they cut him from camp so he could rest it before the season.
Ha. It is funny. Oh but you left out the part where he bruised his shoulder before the White vs Blue game which was the reason they cut him from camp so he could rest it before the season.
Carry on though.
NO. He was sent down because he's lazy and sucks! Clearly!
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Please, please, please, if you have anything left in your farm system that resembles Bourret in any way, feel free to ship him on over to the Rangers.
By the way, I don't think any of us were waxing eloquent about how great Bourret "was", but how great we think he is "going to be". The kid has shown me nothing but reasons to completely buy into this notion.
Once again, thank you Mr. Waddell. Don't forget Slats' number!
I was wondering how long it would take for this thread to pop up.
But yes, he hurt his shoulder and that was a big factor in why he was cut. But I'll go further and say that yes, he needs some more time in the AHL. The only people who really thought he'd win a spot out of camp were the overly optimistic ones. No reason to rush the guy.
There's some talk he could be recalled for some preseason games if his shoulder feels better.
Dupuis is still an interchangable third liner who could have been picked up for nothing, while Bourret is still a former first rounder with some potential left.
Interchange with whom? Dupuis is better PK guy than Bobby Holik was last year, certainly better than Vigier IMO.
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Ha. It is funny. Oh but you left out the part where he bruised his shoulder before the White vs Blue game which was the reason they cut him from camp so he could rest it before the season.
Carry on though.
Wow a Bourret injury?
Hopefully he didn't fake it like last year when he came up with a mysterious injury that no one remembered seeing and the training staff couldn't find any evidence for.
Interchange with whom? Dupuis is better PK guy than Bobby Holik was last year, certainly better than Vigier IMO.
Wow a Bourret injury?
Hopefully he didn't fake it like last year when he came up with a mysterious injury that no one remembered seeing and the training staff couldn't find any evidence for.
Enjoy him.
Nobody cares about the PK, it doesn't show up in the stats.
And Bourret is NOT a fat lazy bum that makes up excuses and injuries to account for poor performance; he is a hard-working saint of a scoring machine that we could all take a lesson from... In fact I think I'm calling in sick tomorrow.
WHAT!!, everyone knows who dupuis is, what he can do and what he can't do. There's tons of players like him. Bourret is still a ??. I'll take the chance on a player like Bourret rather than keep a guy around who will be replaced by a younger version of him in our system.
WHAT!!, everyone knows who dupuis is, what he can do and what he can't do. There's tons of players like him. Bourret is still a ??. I'll take the chance on a player like Bourret rather than keep a guy around who will be replaced by a younger version of him in our system.
One player is an NHL'er, the other is an AHL'er.
One player is an accomplished penalty killer, the other is not.
One player has actually done something to help a NHL team, the other has not.
One player is an NHL'er, the other is an AHL'er.
One player is an accomplished penalty killer, the other is not.
One player has actually done something to help a NHL team, the other has not.
So clearly Dupuis is better than, say, Niklas Backstrom, who hasn't accomplished anything in the NHL yet either? This kind of stubborn logic just doesn't hold up, especially when used against a player who is still very young.
When a 1st round pick is a healthy scratch in the AHL there is a reason and it usually isn't a good one.
Healthy Scratch? Yeah maybe when he was stuck on a Veteran Team in Chicago. He showed his promise with Wolfpack, and had a shot at nabbing a spot with the Rangers, but fell to injuries.
But i guess there is just no way for someone to actually change. Will always be Fat and Lazy in Thrash fans eyes.
Nobody cares about the PK, it doesn't show up in the stats.
And Bourret is NOT a fat lazy bum that makes up excuses and injuries to account for poor performance; he is a hard-working saint of a scoring machine that we could all take a lesson from... In fact I think I'm calling in sick tomorrow.
People usually don't care enough about the PK to give up a first round pick. Dupuis wasn't THAT much better than Viger on the penalty kill.
First off, I do think it is highly dubious to make light of the fact that Bourret got sent down.
The Rangers are simply stacked on their Top 2 lines, plus they have guys like Callahan who are not only better than Bourret but also bring more to the bottom lines than he does. I suspect that he still would be up in Thrashers camp right now, if he was still in the organization.
However, I think all Thrashers fans who have followed the Bourret debacle in Atlanta are aware that using his injury as an excuse for his demotion is a pile. He has in the past faked an injury to cover up poor play/poor conditioning.
He has played well since joining the Rangers, but lets see how he does in the AHL this year. If he blows up the AHL and is in shape, the trade begins to look worse. If he is getting scratched, or has phantom injuries that pop up when the times are tough....not so good for Rangers.
He has played well since joining the Rangers, but lets see how he does in the AHL this year. If he blows up the AHL and is in shape, the trade begins to look worse. If he is getting scratched, or has phantom injuries that pop up when the times are tough....not so good for Rangers.
I disagree. Even if this guy totally busts this year, ends up in management's dog house and decides that he wants to pursue a career is cosmetology this was a good trade for the Rangers. Pascal Dupuis was/is a known quantity, and in my opinion an inter-changeable part for the vast majority of NHL franchises. Alex Bourret, regardless of his perceived attitude and motivation problems, is a highly skilled powerforward with the potential to be an impact player.
If he "he blows up the AHL and is in shape" it is an absolute, undeniable steal for NY. If he crashes and burns... whatever. Dupuis was not a significant contributor anywhere on the ice for the Rangers, and he can be easily replaced from within or via free agency. This was a very low risk, high reward type of investment that Sather would do over and over again.
An honest question for all of you:
Does anyone think that Alex's poor showing in the Thrashers minor league system might have anything to do with his being mishandled by the organization? Is it possible that he was having a hard time adjusting to playing for a veteran laden Chicago team that doesn't necessarily seem to be motivated by player development?
Does anyone think that Alex's poor showing in the Thrashers minor league system might have anything to do with his being mishandled by the organization? Is it possible that he was having a hard time adjusting to playing for a veteran laden Chicago team that doesn't necessarily seem to be motivated by player development?
That is a valid point, and by itself could be worthy of consideration. However, when you also throw in the fact he was out of shape every training camp he attended, was specifically called out the coach for being out of shape his first time around, and then came down with what the Thrashers staff felt was a made up injury when he was not playing well in his last prospect camp.
Too many knocks against him to just say he struggled on a "veteran" pro team(which BTW had the AHL Rookie of the Year on its top line).
I would also submit that if you think a 3rd rounder and Pascal Dupuis is worth the idea that Bourret might be good, sorry but I am not buying it. If Bourret doesn't pan out, DW got a solid PKer and 3rd line F for nothing, along with a decent prospect(I think the Thrashers used the pick on Machacek who looked good in prospect camp and in Traverse City)
Bourret wasn't expected to make the Rangers this year anyway. You people are acting like he should have been a lock to make the NHL roster. There's no room for him in any capacity where he'd get enough ice time in New York. Thats what happens when you have a quality NHL roster.
AB is a prospect with 2nd line scoring potential who can play a physical game as well.
He was awesome in the prospects games out in Traverse City and was the best forward on a team that went undefeated and walk through everybody else.
Pascal is a dime a dozen undersized 3rd line player who excels on the PK...the NHL is full of them and this is a no-brainer trade from the NYR's perspective.
