I was listening to Leafs Lunch today and Elliotte Friedman from CBC was on. He and Marek began talking about McCabe and how he was a different guy this season and how he did not want to stay in Toronto but could not turn down the 5.75+NMC.
Now, I like McCabe and think he's often bashed way too much by Leaf fans. And it was obvious this season he was not near the same player as in the previous year. But if he did not want to be here, why did he sign a 5 yr contract? Especially after seeing what Pronger went through in Edmonton.
I'll never understand why Fergie did so much to keep a guy that did not want to be here, and in a way that handcuffs the team with him for 5 years unless the Islanders will take his contract off his hands(everything I hear says he'd play for the Islanders if given the chance, and he has full control on a trade)
Every year we here of good players that WANT to play here being passed on because we have no room for them. Maybe if we started signing guys who will take the hometown discount, we would not have to overpay players who don't want to be here. Kaberle showed he wanted to be here and took way less then he could of got on the open market(make Kabs available to 30 teams and he get a max deal) now we hear of Sundin taking a little less and Tucker talked about it as well.
If Fergie can find a way to trade McCabe, for the good of the team I hope he does so. As I don't think another indifferent season from an overpaid defencemen is something that's going to help us to where we want to go, and it does no good to the young kids we're starting to bring along. I guess that's the end of my rant haha
Well if he did not want to be here then he would have never signed that contract. It is obvious that he wanted to stay because for some reason there had to be a NTC in the contract so that tells me right there that he did not want to play anywhere but here.
Well if he did not want to be here then he would have never signed that contract. It is obvious that he wanted to stay because for some reason there had to be a NTC in the contract so that tells me right there that he did not want to play anywhere but here.
Or that he wanted to choose where he went if he were traded..
Or that he wanted to choose where he went if he were traded..
That contract alone is a No Trade Clause, so I do not think it really matters. But your right that could be a reason too, but then why even sign with the Leafs he was a UFA he can go where he wants anyways......unless he did not think he could get the money from another team. Who knows.
That contract alone is a No Trade Clause, so I do not think it really matters. But your right that could be a reason too, but then why even sign with the Leafs he was a UFA he can go where he wants anyways......unless he did not think he could get the money from another team. Who knows.
Even then, he could have tested the market and still signed with Toronto.
Most likely a pile of crap dreamed up by a couple of guys with nothing else to talk about.
This is also true. Friedman used this 'information' in an article a few weeks back. There's nobody who would commit to a place for 5 years if they didn't want to be here.
That allows for a very favorable $$$$ MLSE buyout after 2 more season as McCabe gets $ 20 mil of his $28 mil in the first three season ..
This is where the buyout amount against the cap is less then if they paid McCabe $4mil and had it counted $5.75 mil which creates nearly $2 mil in dead cap space, a situation they're currently trying to avoid with Sundin new contract right now ..
So its TWO more seasons until buy time for McCabe ..
That allows for a very favorable $$$$ MLSE buyout after 2 more season as McCabe gets $ 20 mil of his $28 mil in the first three season ..
This is where the buyout amount against the cap is less then if they paid McCabe $4mil and had it counted $5.75 mil which creates nearly $2 mil in dead cap space, a situation they're currently trying to avoid with Sundin new contract right now ..
So its TWO more seasons until buy time for McCabe ..
Which makes zero sense at all. Especially in combination with this thread.
This is also true. Friedman used this 'information' in an article a few weeks back. There's nobody who would commit to a place for 5 years if they didn't want to be here.
MLSE and GM JFJ are paying McCabe nearly $20.5 mil dollars for the first 3 years of his contract ..
That is $7.150 mil this year , $7.150 mil next season and then $ 6.150 mil in year 3 ..
That makes his average $6.81 mil and pays him more per season then Scott Niedermayer $6.75 mil and or Chris Pronger $6.25 mil .. It makes him the 3rd highest paid Dman in the NHL behind only Lidstrom and Chara when talking real dollars that these players are taking home ..
Money talks and no team outside of Toronto is going to pay him that kind of money ..
McCabe couldn't help but sign that contract after all he is no idiot.. Its the Leafs with more money then brains here in this deal ..
MLSE and GM JFJ are paying McCabe nearly $20.5 mil dollars for the first 3 years of his contract ..
That is $7.150 mil this year , $7.150 mil next season and then $ 6.150 mil in year 3 ..
That makes his average $6.81 mil and pays him more per season then Scott Niedermayer $6.75 mil and or Chris Pronger $6.25 mil .. It makes him the 3rd highest paid Dman in the NHL behind only Lidstrom and Chara when talking real dollars that these players are taking home ..
Money talks and no team outside of Toronto is going to pay him that kind of money ..
McCabe couldn't help but sign that contract after all he is no idiot.. Its the Leafs with more money then brains here in this deal ..
So your logic is Toronto overpaid because they wanted him so bad, but will buy him out in 2 years because he isn't worth the money to the team who had the option to leave him?
MLSE and GM JFJ are paying McCabe nearly $20.5 mil dollars for the first 3 years of his contract ..
That is $7.150 mil this year , $7.150 mil next season and then $ 6.150 mil in year 3 ..
That makes his average $6.81 mil and pays him more per season then Scott Niedermayer $6.75 mil and or Chris Pronger $6.25 mil .. It makes him the 3rd highest paid Dman in the NHL behind only Lidstrom and Chara when talking real dollars that these players are taking home ..
Money talks and no team outside of Toronto is going to pay him that kind of money ..
McCabe couldn't help but sign that contract after all he is no idiot.. Its the Leafs with more money then brains here in this deal ..
To most teams, it's all about the Cap hit. The year to year dollars mean little. Maybe in 5-10 years when the Cap hits the 60-65mil mark it'll mean more then but right now i'd say very few teams pay as much attention to the yearly salary as they do the cap hit.
To most teams, it's all about the Cap hit. The year to year dollars mean little. Maybe in 5-10 years when the Cap hits the 60-65mil mark it'll mean more then but right now i'd say very few teams pay as much attention to the yearly salary as they do the cap hit.
To the TEAM its the CAP HIT that counts in team building but NOT to the player himself ..
He cares less about that number as it means nothing to him ..
The $5.75 mil is what he counts towards the whole team and needs to fit under the team total as per the CBA.. .
Into McCabe's bank account was deposited $7.15 mil of MLSE dollars this season not $5.75 mil.
When he goes to the store that is the money he buys things with in real money not CAP AVEARAGE amount money which to McCabe is like Monopoly money (it means nothing)..
When MLSE does its accounting books and prepares it financial statements and pays its taxes it will show MLSE Salary Expense $7.15 mil to McCabe paid out, and again the cap average plays no part in anything ..
You have to follow the real money to see what is happening .
To the TEAM its the CAP HIT that counts in team building but NOT to the player himself ..
He cares less about that number as it means nothing to him ..
The $5.75 mil is what he counts towards the whole team and needs to fit under the team total as per the CBA.. .
Into McCabe's bank account was deposited $7.15 mil of MLSE dollars this season..
When he goes to the store that is the money he buys things with in real money not CAP AVEARAGE amount money which to McCabe is like Monopoly money (it means nothing)..
So for all intensive purposes $7.15 mill is pointless to everyone except McCabe and his family. I'm glad you see after pushing this number for some time it means nothing in the grand scheme of things to the fans or the organization.
I was listening to Leafs Lunch today and Elliotte Friedman from CBC was on. He and Marek began talking about McCabe and how he was a different guy this season and how he did not want to stay in Toronto but could not turn down the 5.75+NMC.
I read the Eliotte Friedman article, and it was more fabrication than speculation.
So maybe these guys figure if enough of them say it, fools will believe it is true.
"3) All right... Here’s where it gets interesting. I am convinced Bryan McCabe didn’t want to come back to Toronto. His wife is from Long Island, and went through a life-threatening childbirth last year. It’s perfectly understandable that after something like that, the family wanted to stay closer to her home. I get the sense that McCabe kept asking for things he never thought he’d get, like five years, $5.75 million a season, a no-trade, then a no-move.
Somewhere, he figured the franchise would say no. But the reply was “yes, yes, yes,” and suddenly, he wasn’t getting a better deal anywhere else. "
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Mccabe is overated. Def was a mistake to sign to that deal.
I would say a trade is imminent if they can do what's the best interest of the team.
No chance
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This is also true. Friedman used this 'information' in an article a few weeks back. There's nobody who would commit to a place for 5 years if they didn't want to be here.
"3) All right... Here’s where it gets interesting. I am convinced Bryan McCabe didn’t want to come back to Toronto. His wife is from Long Island, and went through a life-threatening childbirth last year. It’s perfectly understandable that after something like that, the family wanted to stay closer to her home. I get the sense that McCabe kept asking for things he never thought he’d get, like five years, $5.75 million a season, a no-trade, then a no-move.
Somewhere, he figured the franchise would say no. But the reply was “yes, yes, yes,” and suddenly, he wasn’t getting a better deal anywhere else. "
It makes no sense to me either, because if his heart wasn't in Toronto, he wouldn't have been renegotiating in the first place. It would have been totally pointless to talk to a party you have no interest in. He was a UFA and could do whatever he wanted to.
People act like McCabe is overpaid by $5 million, he isn't. He's only overpaid by about $1 million. The reason people get on him is because Kaberle gave a discount.
