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11-02-2003, 07:02 PM
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Nik Antropov

What do you think should be done with this guy? He has some very good skills, but he seems to lack footspeed and more importantly is always injured. I've been a pretty big fan of his since he was drafted, but the injuries are becoming ridiculous. He seems to get knocked out on the most innocent plays. Maybe it's time we trade him for someone around his age so we actually have someone to play on the roster. At this point I'd gladly give up his size, skill and wingspan for some footspeed and a scoring touch. At this point, I'm not really too worried he'd come back and haunt us, because I seriously think he'll be battling serious injuries for the rest of his career.
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I'm not a fan of the "buy high, sell low" philosophy, so I'd stick with him.
 
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he's not going to have surgery
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You wait until he's healthy and producing again first.

He played 72 games last year. We won't be able to get fair value until he's been healthy for a long stretch, if JFJ's inclination is to go that route.
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I think the Leafs stick with him.They've stick with him until now.
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Unless it's in a package for a young stud of a defenseman, i'm going to have to stick with him.
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Trade him once he's back in the lineup and plays like he's capable of. Wish him well and don't look back.
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He is almost untradeable right now, so I think we have to stick with him. I hope he comes back, plays well, and becomes a good part of this team. No matter how well he does play when he does come back i dont think we will ever get fair trade value for him. If he does come back and play well, the question is do we risk him getting injured again (likely) or do we trade him for lesser value then what hes worth.
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I haven't given up on Nik. I think there's a chance he could eventually put his injury troubles behind him.

Think about it. He gets a bad rap because of his two knee surgeries. But realistically his knees are probably stronger now then they ever were. They probably won't ever be a problem for him again.

He played 72 games last year and if he can play 70 games on a regular basis that's good enough.

He's a quick healer. I heard Quinn talking about this the other day. The fact that he only missed 3 games with a broken foot last year is evidence of this.

He's having a problem with his one shoulder this season. I wouldn't be surprised to see him come back in December, then have shoulder surgery during the summer to get it fixed.

Maybe once he gets this bum shoulder fixed, that will be the end of his injury problems...or maybe that's just wishful thinking.
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I would bet that the Oilers would still be interested. They have wanted him in the past. True he got hurt again which hurts his trade value, but he is what the Oilers could use (a powerfoward) and since he will probably need surgey on his shoulder at some point (after the season) he could shake the shoulder injuries as he had the knee injuries. If Comrie was playing for the Oilers this wouldn't happen , however hes just sitting out, hes not helping the team. Antropov could play very soon for the Oilers. Throw in someone like Kondratiev or Pilar to help their defense and I think the Oilers would be very interested.
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I would bet that the Oilers would still be interested. They have wanted him in the past. True he got hurt again which hurts his trade value, but he is what the Oilers could use (a powerfoward) and since he will probably need surgey on his shoulder at some point (after the season) he could shake the shoulder injuries as he had the knee injuries. If Comrie was playing for the Oilers this wouldn't happen , however hes just sitting out, hes not helping the team. Antropov could play very soon for the Oilers. Throw in someone like Kondratiev or Pilar to help their defense and I think the Oilers would be very interested.

I say mabey wait until Nik comes back, and plays a few games, and if Comrie is still sitting, then mabey we could get him either straight up or add a late round draft pick or somebody like belek. Or if our defence is still jamed we could send Antropov and a Berg, or Jackmam, and get Comrie and a draft pick back in return.
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First I say act now because he might not be aviable later.

Second, the Oilers have wanted Antropov before, and while he might not play until Dec. he can play this year, and if he gets his shoulder operated on that could mean no more shoulder problems. A player who can play for you now, and MIGHT be injury prone is more valubale then someone whos sitting out.

Third, you won't get a pick from the Oilers too. They need some defense and are a young team. If the Leafs can get Comrie for Antropov and Kondratiev or Pilar, thats a good deal for the Leafs.
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Maybe we could give Rick Dudley a call in Florida? That guy loves tall Russian players, and didn't he express interest in Antropov as a player he might want in a Lecavalier package or in a trade for Alexeev or Kevin Weekes a couple of years ago? Anyway, not quite sure what we could get out of Florida, but something with Huselius involved wouldn't be bad at all..
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I would bet that the Oilers would still be interested. They have wanted him in the past. True he got hurt again which hurts his trade value, but he is what the Oilers could use (a powerfoward) and since he will probably need surgey on his shoulder at some point (after the season) he could shake the shoulder injuries as he had the knee injuries. If Comrie was playing for the Oilers this wouldn't happen , however hes just sitting out, hes not helping the team. Antropov could play very soon for the Oilers. Throw in someone like Kondratiev or Pilar to help their defense and I think the Oilers would be very interested.
I wouldn't touch Comrie if Edmonton paid me.

He's small, definitely overrated, plus he's holding out.


actually, I find it hard to take you seriously with all the Kaberle bashing you do. So I should have probably just ignored you. oh well.
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Comries a proven point getter and goal scorer (about 60 points a season), who cares if hes small, hes only an inch shorter then Gilmour was. Hes able to use his speed (something the Leafs need) to avoid contact and score.

And he's holding out not because of money, he doesn't want to play in Edmonton anymore. Comrie for Antropov/Kondratiev or Pilar would be a great trade for the Leafs.
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Hainsey + 2nd round pick(need to overpay because of rivals trade) for Antro ?

btw our 2nd round pick would a high pick.. around 30 and 40..
so?
Hainsey is good but we already have markov... antropov bring us size..
so?
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Hainsey + 2nd round pick(need to overpay because of rivals trade) for Antro ?

btw our 2nd round pick would a high pick.. around 30 and 40..
so?
Hainsey is good but we already have markov... antropov bring us size..
so?
If there is one position we are strong at, it is defensive prospects, so I'd say that deal doesn't fullfill our needs...
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make it Christopher Higgins, or Jozef Balej and thats a deal that could happen
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As much as I am frustrated by his continuous injuries, I would still hang onto Antropov. If he can put it together (and I know that's a big if) and continue to improve he is going to be a *very* good NHL'er.
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I know the B.W.O. has this thing about trying not to talk about Antropov trade proposals but this proves it right here that as soon as this guy gets healthy we should trade him for a defencemen...............the guy is ALWAYS getting hurt and he's not a very durable hockey player.....He's almost as bad as Vince Carter of the Toronto Raptors.........."OH I can't play tonight cause I broke my finger nail!"

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He's almost as bad as Vince Carter of the Toronto Raptors.........."OH I can't play tonight cause I broke my finger nail!"
We could only wish he was that "bad" at his sport.
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"As much as I am frustrated by his continuous injuries, I would still hang onto Antropov. If he can put it together (and I know that's a big if) and continue to improve he is going to be a *very* good NHL'er"

Why take a chance on an "if" player if anther team is willing to give you a sure thing (say like........ Comrie), and take that risk on the "if player"?
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Why take a chance on an "if" player if anther team is willing to give you a sure thing (say like........ Comrie), and take that risk on the "if player"?
Because the rewards if the "if" player does make it would be much greater.
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Or you could get a sure thing 60 pt guy now (and who knows, maybe a 70-80 guy), and Antropov is (in your words) a BIG IF. I'll take the sure thing, at least if that sure thing is a 60 pt player.
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Or you could get a sure thing 60 pt guy now (and who knows, maybe a 70-80 guy), and Antropov is (in your words) a BIG IF. I'll take the sure thing, at least if that sure thing is a 60 pt player.

That's your prerogative but I think Nik is worth the risk. I also wouldnt say Comrie is a "sure thing 60pt guy" either, 2.5yrs in the NHL with pt totals of 22, 60, 51. Im not saying he won't hit 60pts consistantly in the future, but I wouldnt exactly call him a sure thing.
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