Here's the story: Some woman that played WoW died in real life. I guess she was one of those addicts who played so much that she had all these online friends. Those friends organized a funeral where they'd all log in and hang out to memorialize her. Someone even logged in with her account so she could be there at the funeral.
The problem? A rival guild decided to ambush the funeral and kill everyone. They started off by sneaking up invisible and killing the dead woman's character. I found it pretty damn funny. Enjoy!
Haha, what a bunch of ********. Normally I wouldn't condone something like this, but good for them. Some people take those games far too seriously, they're supposed to be fun.
I tried playing Everquest once for about two hours. I gave up. It's just boring. It's like IM'ing while occasionaly fighting. I don't get the attraction. I enjoy all kinds of multiplayer games where you run around fighting or whatever, but I don't get the ones like this where it's more about having social hour on the computer.
Heh, now this is the sort of thing I hate in these types of games. Hardcore gamers bing ******* to other hardcore gamers however, as is this case, is hilarious.
I tried playing Everquest once for about two hours. I gave up. It's just boring. It's like IM'ing while occasionaly fighting. I don't get the attraction. I enjoy all kinds of multiplayer games where you run around fighting or whatever, but I don't get the ones like this where it's more about having social hour on the computer.
There is your problem... From someone who played for 4 years... and clocked a sickly amount of hours... Trust me when I say the game isn't fun until you put a year of work into it... after that it is golden...
I liked the music and what not but what if lets say Troy died and we posted well wishes r.i.p.'s, and the like in his topic, oh but then HF'ers gets dns'ed attacked and a thousand or so other people from another forum came in and starting linking to goatse and what not to bassicly ruin it.
I'd consider some posters on here friends, not best friends or people I'd meet in real life but I'd still be sad if some people on these boards died.
as well I see people jumping to conclusions that she spent all he time on WoW and made nothing but friends over the internet, I used to play Diablo II and a VERY large chunk of the people I knew on Diablo II I also knew in real life. it's not out of the question to think that many of those mourners at that funeral knew her in real life as well.
I'll go now but she had family and friends, I wouldn't wish a funeral crashing like that on my worst enemy.
I liked the music and what not but what if lets say Troy died and we posted well wishes r.i.p.'s, and the like in his topic, oh but then HF'ers gets dns'ed attacked and a thousand or so other people from another forum came in and starting linking to goatse and what not to bassicly ruin it.
I'd consider some posters on here friends, not best friends or people I'd meet in real life but I'd still be sad if some people on these boards died.
as well I see people jumping to conclusions that she spent all he time on WoW and made nothing but friends over the internet, I used to play Diablo II and a VERY large chunk of the people I knew on Diablo II I also knew in real life. it's not out of the question to think that many of those mourners at that funeral knew her in real life as well.
I'll go now but she had family and friends, I wouldn't wish a funeral crashing like that on my worst enemy.
I posted this link on a forum of a Day of Defeat Server that I play on and many of the posts reflect your opinion.
In reply to your comments I'd have to say that people take this and other games WAY too seriously and your comments definitely reflect that. What that guild did was part of the game and if people who don't like it have a problem with it they can find some Seasame Street level game to play instead where everyone has warm fuzzies to everyone else.
I think the stupid thing about this is they did it in a zone that was contested (meaning youre free game to get killed). If they were smart they should have done it in a area where people couldnt kill them.
I posted this link on a forum of a Day of Defeat Server that I play on and many of the posts reflect your opinion.
In reply to your comments I'd have to say that people take this and other games WAY too seriously and your comments definitely reflect that. What that guild did was part of the game and if people who don't like it have a problem with it they can find some Seasame Street level game to play instead where everyone has warm fuzzies to everyone else.
I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying. Yes I agree that many people do take these games WAY to seriously, however I do not play any games on the PC, and aside from the ocasional game of Halo 2 I don't play any online games at all.
I have a friend who plays WoW, and there is an ettiquete to the game just like in real life. were they in the wrong to see a group of characters and to attack? no.
But they clearly knew that it was a funeral, they attacked the girl's character first. I don't find it funny to laugh at the misery of others, especially when one has passed on. the fact that a video was made as well further enhances the point. The girl died and her friends gathered to mourn her passing, I would have picked a location where you can't be attacked by others if possible but whatever. Why should they move to a new game to mourn? Because some other guild thinks it's funny to ambush a funeral?
I have a friend who plays WoW, and there is an ettiquete to the game just like in real life. were they in the wrong to see a group of characters and to attack? no.
This 'ettiquete' isn't in the list of rules set by Blizzard otherwise they would have been banned. They were within their rights to do this.
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But they clearly knew that it was a funeral, they attacked the girl's character first. I don't find it funny to laugh at the misery of others, especially when one has passed on. the fact that a video was made as well further enhances the point. The girl died and her friends gathered to mourn her passing, I would have picked a location where you can't be attacked by others if possible but whatever. Why should they move to a new game to mourn? Because some other guild thinks it's funny to ambush a funeral?
Does no one respect life anymore?
Listen to yourself. IT'S A GAME!!! IT'S NOT REAL LIFE!!! WOW IS FANTASY!!!
The game is just the venue that a funeral (or mourning) took place...
The mouning is true...so the spirit of the funeral is real.
Even different cultures have different ways to deal with funerals. Just because you don't believe in an afterlife, does that mean you can trash a person's funeral?
It is also perfectly within your right to say very inappropriate things at a funeral, does it mean it should be acceptable?
It is possible to make good friends online. it is possible to need to mourn when they pass on. And to trash a mourning and think it's funny...that's low.
The game is just the venue that a funeral (or mourning) took place...
The mouning is true...so the spirit of the funeral is real.
Even different cultures have different ways to deal with funerals. Just because you don't believe in an afterlife, does that mean you can trash a person's funeral?
It is also perfectly within your right to say very inappropriate things at a funeral, does it mean it should be acceptable?
It is possible to make good friends online. it is possible to need to mourn when they pass on. And to trash a mourning and think it's funny...that's low.
That's the point I was trying to make...I like your words better.
The game is just the venue that a funeral (or mourning) took place...
The mouning is true...so the spirit of the funeral is real.
Even different cultures have different ways to deal with funerals. Just because you don't believe in an afterlife, does that mean you can trash a person's funeral?
It is also perfectly within your right to say very inappropriate things at a funeral, does it mean it should be acceptable?
It is possible to make good friends online. it is possible to need to mourn when they pass on. And to trash a mourning and think it's funny...that's low.
The game is just the venue that a funeral (or mourning) took place...
The mouning is true...so the spirit of the funeral is real.
Even different cultures have different ways to deal with funerals. Just because you don't believe in an afterlife, does that mean you can trash a person's funeral?
It is also perfectly within your right to say very inappropriate things at a funeral, does it mean it should be acceptable?
It is possible to make good friends online. it is possible to need to mourn when they pass on. And to trash a mourning and think it's funny...that's low.
IN REAL LIFE...
This is a game. It's all fantasy. This game allows people to do things that they wouldn't do in real life. Did you read the story of how there was a Mafia in the Sims online extorting from people? Yeah that sucks if it happens in real life but IT'S FANTASY.
They left themselves open to be attacked and they were dumb enough to think that nobody would attack. That's their own fault for being so naive in a game like WOW.
If they want to mourn a person, they should get off their collective fat ***** and attend the funeral or do it in a chat room.
This is a game. It's all fantasy. This game allows people to do things that they wouldn't do in real life. Did you read the story of how there was a Mafia in the Sims online extorting from people? Yeah that sucks if it happens in real life but IT'S FANTASY.
They left themselves open to be attacked and they were dumb enough to think that nobody would attack. That's their own fault for being so naive in a game like WOW.
If they want to mourn a person, they should get off their collective fat ***** and attend the funeral or do it in a chat room.
The game was where the friendships were made. And that's the place where they felt they should mourn her. A game like WoW can have people from all over the continent playing on the same server, making the real funeral impossible to attend to.
The place within the game might not be the best place for them to have the funeral, and the fact that they left it open to attacks might be stupid. But it is the people who trashed it and think it's funny that should be looked down upon and be shamed, not the people who were trying to mourn their friend.
Also, it would help if you stopped generalizing people and calling them fat, doesn't make your arguement look good if you need to throw insults in it.
And also, I don't play the game, but I know enough people who do...
The game was where the friendships were made. And that's the place where they felt they should mourn her. A game like WoW can have people from all over the continent playing on the same server, making the real funeral impossible to attend to.
The place within the game might not be the best place for them to have the funeral, and the fact that they left it open to attacks might be stupid. But it is the people who trashed it and think it's funny that should be looked down upon and be shamed, not the people who were trying to mourn their friend.
Also, it would help if you stopped generalizing people and calling them fat, doesn't make your arguement look good if you need to throw insults in it.
And also, I don't play the game, but I know enough people who do...
I really don't care how my argument looks.
Are you listening to yourself in what you just wrote? Mourn someone in a GAME?!?!?! Do you know how messed up that is on so many levels?
Here read this:
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World of Warcraft is an online role-playing experience set in the award-winning Warcraft universe. Players assume the roles of Warcraft heroes as they explore, adventure, and quest across a vast world. World of Warcraft is a "Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game" which allows thousands of players to interact within the same world. Whether adventuring together or fighting against each other in epic battles, players will form friendships, forge alliances, and compete with enemies for power and glory.
The video is funny and people are taking the game and life (especially those of you who don't play the game and don't think it's funny) WAY too seriously if they don't think it's funny.
Please spare me the weak attempts at ethics lessons when discussing a friggin game where this kind of stuff is fair game.
And that's the place where they felt they should mourn her. A game like WoW can have people from all over the continent playing on the same server, making the real funeral impossible to attend to.
And they posted the invitation to it on a public forum where they joked about the other clan doing something. And, what do you know, it happened.
Keep in mind, I totally get that it was rude, but I still find it very funny. I'm just being honest. I'm not going to pretend any sort of sympathy for what happens in a game. They were being dicks, but that's why it's funny.
Like Dolemite said, it was just a game. I've made several online friends from fantasy hockey, and I was fairly saddened when one disappeared. We don't know if he got arrested (again) or finally found a girlfriend, but there was a mourning period where we discussed missing him and how best to get access to his players. That said, I still didn't react the same as I would with a person I knew in real life. There is still a huge difference between knowing someone through a game and knowing them in real life.
While I'm a firm believer in 'too each his own', when I play a game like this (though I don't play WoW), I do it to indulge in a little escapism. When people use these games to fullfill their social needs, or it becomes a dominant part of their life, then there's the huge question of how just how unhealthy that is.
That may not be the case here, from the sounds of it, people knew she actually died in that mysterious 'irl',and there was someone she trusted enough to give her passwords to, she probably did have a few real friends that played with her. So go to her funeral and pay your respect. It sucks when someone dies young, but it happens, and its a part of life. There's also some people that probably did become close with her just in-game, that may want to pay some respects. So go ahead and hold a private funeral/remembrance for her in game if you want.
This isn't what happened though, as Troy McLure said they posted a funeral announcement in a public forum. Like I said it's said that the girl died, but you can't expect the whole community to stop and have a moment of silence for Aviara the Wood Elf. I mean, if your mom dies and you need log into WoW to look for sympathy, I think thats a big social problem. Do it (within reason) to try and forget about your problems, sure, but not to look for moral support.
You also can't expect that every player in game is going to be an upstanding citizen. There will be immature little brats, punks, losers, jerks, etc. etc. playing as well. The moral of the story? Don't go airing your 'irl' laundry in a fantasy world and expect everyone to be respectful or sympathetic to them. On the other end, for all you know, this 'girl' that died could really be some fat and greasy 30 year old loser, or a 12 year old little punk, just getting a kick out of messing with people. Personally when I deal with people online, someone else behind another computer who I've never actually seen or met, I'll smile and nod with what they're saying, but take everything with a grain of salt.
For the video, while most of these 'Serenity Now' (awesome name ) guys probably are the biggest losers; you know the 'cool' kids on WoW that spend all their time playing it and have multiple level 60 uber characters, I found it funny because the video is sort of a tongue in cheek - slap in the face reminder that it's just a game and meant to be fun.
) guys probably are the biggest losers; you know the 'cool' kids on WoW that spend all their time playing it and have multiple level 60 uber characters, I found it funny because the video is sort of a tongue in cheek - slap in the face reminder that it's just a game and meant to be fun.
