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11-26-2009, 01:21 AM
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Metro has more points than Gomez, less games played

And is 1 point behind Gionta

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11-26-2009, 01:26 AM
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Did you notice how invisible Gomez has been for last 3 games? Just brutal.
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11-26-2009, 01:44 AM
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Seriously though Gomez has done even worse this year. Most thought last year's 58 pts were an aberration but he was on pace for like 40 before he went down this year.
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11-26-2009, 01:48 AM
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gomez is the most overpaid player in the league!
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11-26-2009, 01:58 AM
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It doesn't matter, Gomez helps the team a lot more than nothing, and it was either him or someone worse. He smart, he's good to carry the puck, and he's responsible defensively. I'm confident he will end up with a much better record than 0.5 points per game. Besides we must stop thinking about salary when bashing Gomez because it's not his fault if he's overpaid. Criticize his play on the ice instead, salary is the GM's fault. And if you forget salary, he's good. Therefore, he's good.

He is also the reason we're not 10-14 because he scored twice in the shootout and you have to admit those goals were badass.

As for Metropolit, he's just awesome.

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11-26-2009, 02:02 AM
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gomez is the most overpaid player in the league!
And we have him for the next 5 years...

Cool Beans!!
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11-26-2009, 02:42 AM
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And we have him for the next 5 years...

Cool Beans!!
I thought it was three? He didn't sign a 7 year deal with the Rangers did he? Ouch. But I would think he'll have at least one good year between now and 2014. Unless he's totally washed up. By the way, it's fewer games played and Metro shows the kind of determination and effort we need more of out of our star guys.
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11-26-2009, 02:48 AM
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Maybe we got it all wrong and Pyatt was the centerpiece of the trade?
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gomez is the most overpaid player in the league!
Well I was attacked when I said we could have get Gaborik instead of Gomez.
I say it now but I was thinking it the day the trade was done.
But the cohorts of Gainey's fans are defending all his moves.

Cammy said he came because of Gomez but never said he would not have come without Gomez.
And nobody asked him.
Like 6M and Montreal was not a good reason enough!
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Well I was attacked when I said we could have get Gaborik instead of Gomez.
I say it now but I was thinking it the day the trade was done.
But the cohorts of Gainey's fans are defending all his moves.

Cammy said he came because of Gomez but never said he would not have come without Gomez.
And nobody asked him.
Like 6M and Montreal was not a good reason enough!
Gaborik would've meant no Cammy I gues. There's a difference of course (1.5 million in pay and 7 goals and a handful of points), but we'll see how the whole length of it turns out. I'd wager to bet Gaborik will be on the shelf for a while a few times in the future. Unless the Rangers have amazing doctors, he'll struggle with injuries at some point in his 5 year deal.
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11-26-2009, 03:01 AM
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Maybe we got it all wrong and Pyatt was the centerpiece of the trade?
I assumed that from the beginning.
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Maybe we got it all wrong and Pyatt was the centerpiece of the trade?
Considering this, we should probably wait to see what Busto can do.

Which will be in the next two weeks.
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11-26-2009, 07:15 AM
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to the guy who said gomez is good on the d, well he is not paid to be good on d, but to get points, score goals (mainly passes) make our pp work, be aleader.

sami pahlsson is good defensively, can carry the puck and dont get points, he does not earn the 8 million.

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consider we wouln't overpay gomez, 5 million in a dream world would be okaish
consider we dint overpay gionta, and he would ear 4 million.

that gives us 3 million on the salary cap (gomez is 7.something not 8 on the cap)

what would we have done with the additionnal 3 million? a trade for a top 6 forward would have peen possible, but considering its bob, and considering nobody trades anyways at this time a year (except for useless players or busts) we would not trade anyway..
so likely nothing major
what impact will the 3 million have ?

well maybe we will have to let go more players than we intended
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45 games of an injured gaborik > Gomez full season any day of the week.

would gaborik have come, yes cause we would pay him 7.5 mil.
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11-26-2009, 07:22 AM
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Well I was attacked when I said we could have get Gaborik instead of Gomez.
I say it now but I was thinking it the day the trade was done.
But the cohorts of Gainey's fans are defending all his moves.

Cammy said he came because of Gomez but never said he would not have come without Gomez.
And nobody asked him.
Like 6M and Montreal was not a good reason enough!
Well thats wrong. On OTR he asked that exact question. "If Gomez is not a hab, is Cammalleri?" he responded with a pause... then an unconvincing "I don't know". If Gomez was not a hab, then we would not have Cammalleri right now.

He wanted centers, and Gomez is a better center than any of the available centers in the off season.
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to the guy who said gomez is good on the d, well he is not paid to be good on d, but to get points, score goals (mainly passes) make our pp work, be aleader.

sami pahlsson is good defensively, can carry the puck and dont get points, he does not earn the 8 million.

NOW
consider we wouln't overpay gomez, 5 million in a dream world would be okaish
consider we dint overpay gionta, and he would ear 4 million.

that gives us 3 million on the salary cap (gomez is 7.something not 8 on the cap)

what would we have done with the additionnal 3 million? a trade for a top 6 forward would have peen possible, but considering its bob, and considering nobody trades anyways at this time a year (except for useless players or busts) we would not trade anyway..
so likely nothing major
what impact will the 3 million have ?

well maybe we will have to let go more players than we intended
also

45 games of an injured gaborik > Gomez full season any day of the week.

would gaborik have come, yes cause we would pay him 7.5 mil.
Your right, you should have been GM this off season, I'm sure its that easy to get Gaborik and manage to keep Cammy, Gomez and sign Gio to a 4 million dollar contract (which I think is fair).

I'm not defending gainey, I think he got us into some financial problems for the next 5 seasons, but saying an injured gaborik for 45 games is > Gomez is just ignorant. There is a good chance Gainey wanted Gaborik, who knows? Maybe he didn't like Montreal? You can't really know.

Also, Gomez' true value is in the playoffs, which is when getting some secondary scoring will really matter. There is still plenty of season left, and with pleks taking over 1st line center duties, Gomez might have easier defensive pairings to play against so he can get his confidence up and production up for fans who can't see other intangibles that he brings to the table.
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11-26-2009, 07:35 AM
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Gomez has been injured for the past several games, before he went down officially, quit ****ing ******* on him already
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Even Tanguay has now 15 points in 22 games played. With Metro success, Gomez better pick his game or else he may be assigned to 3rd line duty.
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Didn't Gomez have the flu or play through an injury or something at some point (don't feel like looking through old threads)? I seem to remember the announcers mentioning it during a stretch of games. He started off strong, then slowed down. Then Gionta went down, and Gomez never recovered...
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Well I was attacked when I said we could have get Gaborik instead of Gomez.
I remember that Gaborik wanted to go to New York above all other teams. It would have been a huge gamble on Gainey's part...
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11-26-2009, 08:27 AM
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Considering this, we should probably wait to see what Busto can do.

Which will be in the next two weeks.
I laughed.

Then I cried.

And yeah, Gomez played hurt a bunch of games, and you could tell.
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Well I was attacked when I said we could have get Gaborik instead of Gomez.
How's Gaborik at face-offs?
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How's Gaborik at face-offs?
That's not my statement, it's Pam's...
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I think people will think differently of Gomez when they see him in the playoffs, that's where he does well and is more valuable.
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Gomez is disappointing, but he's hurt and he might have played hurt for a while, we just don't know. I think all this *****ing by the board's wannabe GMs is badly timed and too early. Let's wait before calling it a total mistake. Patience is the key... Remember what you guys said about Plekanec and Hamrlik... And I know you were exactly the same *d*ots asking them to be moved for whatever garbage we could get...
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Dumb Cap question:

If Gomez were traded in his final year, would his cap hit still be 7 mil for the new team or the average of whatever is remaining?
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