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11/23/09 Do you worry more about the Khabi contract now?

View Poll Results: Do you worry more about the Khabi contract now?
Never worried, like the contract, things are fine 18 22.78%
Liked the contract, but slightly worried now 1 1.27%
Neutral... 15 18.99%
Was worried before, now even more so 11 13.92%
Hated the contract, now even more upset 7 8.86%
It has nothing to do with the contract, injuries happen (especially this team) 24 30.38%
Other, please explain 3 3.80%
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11-23-2009, 09:41 AM
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11/23/09 Do you worry more about the Khabi contract now?

Oilers address ‘everything imaginable’ in meeting early Sunday
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sport...215/story.html

Oilers call up Dubnyk as Khabibulin remains day-to-day
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sport...270/story.html

Tonight 7 p.m., PPV, 630 CHED
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/my...80446-sun.html

Oilers regressing
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/my...80451-sun.html

Khabibulin a game-time call
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/my...80456-sun.html

Question period
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/my...80466-sun.html

Raiders of the lost Oil Kings
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/ho...80496-sun.html

Game grades overall: C- (Oil Kings)
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/ho...80491-sun.html

If people don't want me putting in the Oil King stories, please let me know and I'll keep them out

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11-23-2009, 09:43 AM
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Nanaimo product gets a call to duty from NHL club unexpected look at
http://www.canada.com/Nanaimo+produc...903/story.html

Edmonton Oilers Quarterly Report
http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=507094
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Coyotes at Oilers, G24, 09-10
http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2009/11...g24-09-10.html

Dubnyk gets the Call
http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2009/11...gets-call.html

Matzah Ball
http://lowetide.blogspot.com/2009/11/matzah-ball.html

Bigos Man on Campus
http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/...on-campus.html

NCAA Update - November 22
http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/...vember-22.html

Arena expected to pump up property values
http://communities.canada.com/edmont...ty-values.aspx

Blue lines and bottom lines: the economic debate around the building of a downtown Edmonton arena district
http://communities.canada.com/edmont...he-oilers.aspx

Khabibulin vs. Roloson. How is the Oilers new, old netminder doing so far?
http://communities.canada.com/edmont...ng-so-far.aspx

Midnight Sun Espresso Stout
http://www.blackdoghatesskunks.com/2...sso-stout.html

Steve Tambellini: It's Injuries, Guys
http://oilersnation.com/2009/11/22/s...-injuries-guys

morning papers
http://illegalcurve.com/

Tavares in town
http://www.fromtherink.com/

Desjardins' NHLE for Oilers Prospects
http://www.coppernblue.com/2009/11/2...hle-for-oilers

Khabbi Got Back (Problems)
http://www.coppernblue.com/2009/11/2...-back-problems

Was Hemsky Concussed?
http://www.coppernblue.com/2009/11/2...msky-concussed

Ales Hemsky: Boat Anchor
http://www.coppernblue.com/2009/11/2...ky-boat-anchor

What We Learned: At quarter pole, NHL's biggest surprises
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,204284

around the league with kukla
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/

rumours
http://www.spectorshockey.net/index....&id=5&Itemid=4

How Bad Is Khabibulin's Injury?
http://oilersinsider.blogspot.com/20...ns-injury.html

Canucks 0, Blackhawks 1
http://my.thescore.com/hockeyordie/a...ckhawks-1.aspx
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11-23-2009, 10:42 AM
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Steve Tambellini: It's Injuries, Guys
http://oilersnation.com/2009/11/22/s...-injuries-guys
Tambo should have realized that some of our injuries were longer term than exepected and made a move or two.
The people we've really missed this year are guys like JFJ and Stone who, while not setting the world on fire on the score sheet, they do go out and engage the opposition, and more often than not, that engages the rest of the team. If you see a guy like Stone or JFJ doing or trying to do what you're supposed to be doing, then you're going to do it I guess. A guy like Stone, while I do like him, is a commodity item in this league and could be replaced for a mid-rounder and this should have been done, bottom line.

I don't want to make it sound like Stone fixes all, but this team was way more effective with 1 hitter and 2 smurts configuration... As of right now, there's too many passengers outside of the top line of this team. I think that's kind of the problem with the team when they talk culture. Too many guys are not afraid for their jobs.
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11-23-2009, 11:15 AM
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Tambellini is reflecting the general sentiment that has crippled this team over the years... it bothers me when I see good teams making tweaks to their roster, and the Oilers' standing pat.

I wonder if his job is on the line if the Oilers miss the playoffs again this year?

It gets frustrating considering this has become a yearly affair.


More of the same in Oiler Land. Oh well...


edit: And why is there always Leaf's news on this thread?
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11-23-2009, 11:18 AM
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Tambellini is reflecting the general sentiment that has crippled this team over the years... it bothers me when I see good teams making tweaks to their roster, and the Oilers' standing pat.

I wonder if his job is on the line if the Oilers miss the playoffs again this year?

It gets frustrating considering this has become a yearly affair.


More of the same in Oiler Land. Oh well...
True, because there have been a ton of trades at the beginning of this season.
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11-23-2009, 11:24 AM
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Tambellini is reflecting the general sentiment that has crippled this team over the years... it bothers me when I see good teams making tweaks to their roster, and the Oilers' standing pat.

I wonder if his job is on the line if the Oilers miss the playoffs again this year?

It gets frustrating considering this has become a yearly affair.


More of the same in Oiler Land. Oh well...
No his job is not on the line. It takes at least 5 years/ seasons to fairly ***** a GM and his work.

As for the poll I voted other. I think if Khabby continues to be plagued by injuries he will retire before the end of his contract and thus his contract will not hamper this team.
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11-23-2009, 11:27 AM
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No his job is not on the line. It takes at least 5 years/ seasons to fairly ***** a GM and his work.

As for the poll I voted other. I think if Khabby continues to be plagued by injuries he will retire before the end of his contract and thus his contract will not hamper this team.
Yes it will. He signed it after the age of 35. There is no cap relief under any circumstances.
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With regards to Khabby, Unadulterated Panic.
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Yes it will. He signed it after the age of 35. There is no cap relief under any circumstances.
Oh ya **** forgot about that stipulation. The same one that is gonna hamper Philly on the Pronger contract.

Then I cange my selection back to yes it is a bit worrisome. 4 years is too long.

But with more fan support in Phoenix and Colorado the cap is sure to go up.
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Gregor blasting people that think Tambo is not doing his job

http://oilersnation.com/2009/11/23/h...ambo-alarmists
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Gregor blasting people that think Tambo is not doing his job

http://oilersnation.com/2009/11/23/h...ambo-alarmists
I gotta agree with everything that Gregor says here.
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Gregor blasting people that think Tambo is not doing his job

http://oilersnation.com/2009/11/23/h...ambo-alarmists
I can't blast Tambo for not pulling a trade out of his hat. But he likes the team the way it is. That, to me, is unforgivable, since any idiot can see that this club, even 100 per cent healthy, is a bubble team at best.
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I can't blast Tambo for not pulling a trade out of his hat. But he likes the team the way it is. That, to me, is unforgivable, since any idiot can see that this club, even 100 per cent healthy, is a bubble team at best.
Oh yah that's right he is supposed to come out in the media and say this team blows. I know changes need to be made as these half assed hockey plyers jsut aren't cutting it anymore. You guys read into too much of the ******** that gets spread in the media.
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With regards to Khabby, Unadulterated Panic.
This, a hundred times over.

The Khabby contract was a monumentally stupid, boneheaded move that absolutely reeked of Rookie GM Jitters, and could potentially cripple this franchise for years more than any of Kevin Lowe's cranial-rectal-inversion spending ever could.
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Cant we just put him in the AHL if we need to later?
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Gregor blasting people that think Tambo is not doing his job

http://oilersnation.com/2009/11/23/h...ambo-alarmists
I don't think Tambo should lose his job, and I do agree, the culture is going to need to change, but that has not happened yet. This team seems to follow an example though, and at the start off the year, the role players who were playing hard set that example and pushed the players to be better. Look at Gags starting on the 4th line this yaer and pushing hard to move up as an excellent example.

A big trade is not what I was suggesting in my earlier comments. Instead I'm talking some minor trades for some role players. Gregor talks about a Betts or Niedermayer and a 4th line faceoff guy not making a difference? I disagree. Betts has been lights out for Philly and they've struggled since he's been out. Go on their boards and see how much they miss him. He's one of the best PKers in the league.

The culture is going to change by the effort level that is apparent on the ice. THese pluggers help immensely in that regard.


Hitting and effort is contagious, and it's the only bug this team can't catch.
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This, a hundred times over.

The Khabby contract was a monumentally stupid, boneheaded move that absolutely reeked of Rookie GM Jitters, and could potentially cripple this franchise for years more than any of Kevin Lowe's cranial-rectal-inversion spending ever could.
More like they went and got the best PROVEN guy available, who's been very good this season, and it's just one injury, no reason to fear the wrath of todd yet.
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Cant we just put him in the AHL if we need to later?
Yes, but because he's over 35 his cap hit still counts. I say we just pay off some low cap team with a draft pick to take him. It's Katz's money, so I don't care.
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That has to be THE worst headline I have ever read in a Newspaper/online news article.

There are always so many mistakes in each and every one of her articles.

It bugs me.

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This, a hundred times over.

The Khabby contract was a monumentally stupid, boneheaded move that absolutely reeked of Rookie GM Jitters, and could potentially cripple this franchise for years more than any of Kevin Lowe's cranial-rectal-inversion spending ever could.
So, you guys would rather have a 40-year-old on a 2-year contract?
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Tambo should have realized that some of our injuries were longer term than exepected and made a move or two.
The people we've really missed this year are guys like JFJ and Stone who, while not setting the world on fire on the score sheet, they do go out and engage the opposition, and more often than not, that engages the rest of the team. If you see a guy like Stone or JFJ doing or trying to do what you're supposed to be doing, then you're going to do it I guess. A guy like Stone, while I do like him, is a commodity item in this league and could be replaced for a mid-rounder and this should have been done, bottom line.

I don't want to make it sound like Stone fixes all, but this team was way more effective with 1 hitter and 2 smurts configuration... As of right now, there's too many passengers outside of the top line of this team. I think that's kind of the problem with the team when they talk culture. Too many guys are not afraid for their jobs.
No doubt about it, I couldn't agree more.

And it baffles me that so many fans that have seen the likes of Kevin McClelland, Dave Semenko, and Ken Linseman somehow fail to see the value in a player like Ryan Stone. Curtis Glencross was the same way, only even more so valuable given his ability to generate offence.
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This, a hundred times over.

The Khabby contract was a monumentally stupid, boneheaded move that absolutely reeked of Rookie GM Jitters, and could potentially cripple this franchise for years more than any of Kevin Lowe's cranial-rectal-inversion spending ever could.
Very true.
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So, you guys would rather have a 40-year-old on a 2-year contract?
For one thing, there's more then two goalie in the NHL. The Aves know all about that right now.

Secondly, Khabibulin is going to be 39 half way through his four year contract. So, really, the age thing isn't an argument.
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