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Originally Posted by Replacement
With all due respect have you been in the work force very long? When an org is chronically faltering and production, morale, attitude, have been abysmal for years and then the company hires a "ringer" to "readjust" the company attitude you shouldn't be expecting pleasantry and a wine and cheese meeting.
This kind of strip the paint off walls meeting is usually one way. Its basically what Quinn was hired here to do.
The players lost the right to have much input through their missing the playoffs 3 years in a row. Quinn actually states this. That the players, (he stops just short of calling them losers) haven't figured out how to win and don't know how.
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I'm not currently in the workforce at all. I'm still in school.
But Replacement, I know you like to preface your posts by citing my (and others') ages as a way of formulating an opinion on the current state of this team. Because I wasn't able to witness the glory days, I have a lesser grasp on what's considered good.
I've called you on that before.
Now you're asking me about being in the workforce. I find that irrelevant.
So I'm going to ask you something. Although I'm not a professional, I did play a high level of hockey and I know what goes on during successful team meetings (at least from my experience).
So with all due respect, how many team meetings have you been involved in?
I remember a few years ago when our team went through a stretch of 6-straight losses. We were playing crappy hockey, my play sucked, and I was wearing the C at the time.
For about 45 minutes, our coaches "vented" to us about our play. But it wasn't a session of pure criticism either; they spoke to us about what we've been doing wrong and how to productively correct these issues on the ice. They instilled a sense of openness in that room that allowed us to more objectively see what was going wrong with our game.
After that speech, the coaches opened the floor. Whether it was because I was the captain or not, they asked me to speak. I found myself going on for nearly 30 minutes about how the issues that surrounded the team - but most importantly, I was able to give them an objective view of how I saw my own game. Knowing that there were endless issues with our game, I dissected my own play and began to realize what I was doing wrong out there (which was a lot of things at that time).
Following that, we began to talk as a team. We spoke to each other about what we expected from each other, and ourselves. Generally speaking, the harder each individual worked, the easier it was to rely on your teammates and play as a unit out on the ice.
Bu the point I'm trying to make is that the coaches instilled that open floor and allowed everyone to contribute and add what they felt needed to be said. Everyone expressed their opinion and we left the meeting feeling that we accomplished something; we felt like more of a team.
So without knowing what was said in that meeting, how can we formulate any kind of opinion based on a single quote from Horcoff. Frankly, I'd have a huge issue if the coaching staff went into that room this morning and blasted the guys for 90 minutes. How are you supposed to establish a team when it's a one-way street of communication?
I know what Quinn said. But you also have to keep in mind what Renney said a few days ago - something about Quinn not letting anyone on this team off the hook. The accountability is through the roof, from what we can attain from various media reports and the associate coach's opinion.
There's no way Shawn Horcoff enters that room and vents to anyone. He's just as much part of the problem, and it would be foolish to think the coaching staff doesn't understand this. Other than Dustin Penner, there really isn't anyone who isn't part of the problem right now.
