Bottom line, will there be some form of a head shot rule in place for the 10/11 season?
If such a rule were in place what form would it take?
Could any head shot rule be effectively and fairly implemented in the game?
It's looking like a head shot rule could be in place next season thus far (and I'm not very happy about it). I think there'd be a high degree of subjectivity in penalizing someone for a head shot which would either lead to 1. the rule not being enforced or 2. lots of bad calls. What are your thoughts?
i think this is the type of rule change that would require testing in the AHL first. While i have no problem with a headshot rule, i think we need to study the effects of it before implementing it in the NHL.
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i think this is the type of rule change that would require testing in the AHL first. While i have no problem with a headshot rule, i think we need to study the effects of it before implementing it in the NHL.
That's an interesting concept I didn't consider at all. I would most definitely prefer that to having a HS rule auto implemented in the NHL, however I'd still rather nothing change.
Why test it in the AHL when the Checking To The Head rule has been in every league in the world not using the NHL's rulebook?
The rule is great, and it doesn't take bodychecking out of the game, as the excuse-makers will try to say it will.
It gets under my skin seeing so much talk about this rule as if it's something new to the hockey world, when in reality, the NHL (and the leagues who play by NHL rules) is the last league to even consider the rule.
Horse **** rule IMO. Why make the neil hit on hedman a penalty? That was a clean textbook hit. Sure it sucks that hedman sat out for a game or two but he had his head up. Might as well take away their sticks and pads and call it volleyball.
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Why test it in the AHL when the Checking To The Head rule has been in every league in the world not using the NHL's rulebook?
The rule is great, and it doesn't take bodychecking out of the game, as the excuse-makers will try to say it will.
It gets under my skin seeing so much talk about this rule as if it's something new to the hockey world, when in reality, the NHL (and the leagues who play by NHL rules) is the last league to even consider the rule.
The rule sucks. Every big hit gets penalized under the international rules. No thanks.
There was a report last night (FSND) that there is 100m in assests out injured in NHL right now. As it was stated not all of the injuries are head related. But most are due to cheap/dirty hits. It's time to get respect back in the NHL. If someone doesn't want respect back in the NHL then I don't know what to say. 30 years ago when players didn't wear helmet there wasn't nearly the amount of head hits and stick to the face injuries that there is today.
Horse **** rule IMO. Why make the neil hit on hedman a penalty? That was a clean textbook hit. Sure it sucks that hedman sat out for a game or two but he had his head up. Might as well take away their sticks and pads and call it volleyball.
Your logic is unassailable. You can't attack what you can't see.
well if i was playing, i'd put extra protection in my helmet and skate around hunched over with my head down. You're bound to draw some penalties when someone taps your noggin.
I keep it simple: Hits/blows to the head will be a penalty the same way high sticking is.
There will be referee discretion as to whether the contact was incidental/unavoidable, however. Third offense one game suspension, further offenses, longer.
Players who appear to deliberatly make themselves vunerable will go on a watch list the first time, second time will be a warning, third time will be a one game suspension, any further times will warrant more suspension.
Your logic is unassailable. You can't attack what you can't see.
I love hard hitting hockey and an automatic head shot rule would make some classic example of a text book hit illegal in the future. Im not down with making the nhl a soft league.
i think we need to study the effects of it before implementing it in the NHL.
i'd argue that its more important to study the effects of concussions on players, then implement a rule immediately once we realize how devastating they can be
Why test it in the AHL when the Checking To The Head rule has been in every league in the world not using the NHL's rulebook?
The rule is great, and it doesn't take bodychecking out of the game, as the excuse-makers will try to say it will.
It gets under my skin seeing so much talk about this rule as if it's something new to the hockey world, when in reality, the NHL (and the leagues who play by NHL rules) is the last league to even consider the rule.
As I've said so many times. The rule has significantly reduced hitting in the SEL, and because of that, it has lost many fans.
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Originally Posted by yooper wings fan
There was a report last night (FSND) that there is 100m in assests out injured in NHL right now. As it was stated not all of the injuries are head related. But most are due to cheap/dirty hits. It's time to get respect back in the NHL. If someone doesn't want respect back in the NHL then I don't know what to say. 30 years ago when players didn't wear helmet there wasn't nearly the amount of head hits and stick to the face injuries that there is today.
Uh no most aren't due to cheap/dirty hits and last season 1.9% of all man-games lost to injury was because of concussions (750 out of 40,000). This game is dangerous in so many other ways, but no one is whining about that.
If we are going to introduce a CTH-rule it needs to be enforced when the contact is made ONLY to the head, not otherwise.
Do you want these kind of hits do disappear from the game?
These hits are PART OF THE GAME!
The crowd loves it!
If the CTH rule gets enforced the way it is in the euro leagues and in the SEL in particular, you can say goodbye to these kind of hits and we'll have an all-star type game every game. If that's what you like, please start watching another league instead which already has the CTH rule in place.
We're really lucky that a lot of the GMs see the problems with the CTH rule. Otherwise the NHL would be in a lot of trouble.
As I've said so many times. The rule has significantly reduced hitting in the SEL, and because of that, it has lost many fans.
Uh no most aren't due to cheap/dirty hits and last season 1.9% of all man-games lost to injury was because of concussions (750 out of 40,000). This game is dangerous in so many other ways, but no one is whining about that.
If we are going to introduce a CTH-rule it needs to be enforced when the contact is made ONLY to the head, not otherwise.
Do you want these kind of hits do disappear from the game?
If the CTH rule gets enforced the way it is in the euro leagues and in the SEL in particular, you can say goodbye to these kind of hits and we'll have an all-star type game every game. If that's what you like, please start watching another league instead which already has the CTH rule in place.
We're really lucky that a lot of the GMs see the problems with the CTH rule. Otherwise the NHL would be in a lot of trouble.
No. Whining is happening there. I posed three distinct questions that focused on if people thought that there would be a head shot rule instated, what would the rule resemble, and how could it be effectively used.
I agree with you though!
(Edited my quote of your post so it didn't take up a ton of room with the YTs)
All I'll say is that there is a penalty for hits to the head in the NCAA, and watching those games on a regular basis there is no lack of physicality whatsoever.
Oh, and no trapezoid, but somehow goalies manage to not get killed and teams manage to establish offensive zone possessions just fine, but that's beside the point. And the no touch icing hasn't killed the flow.
I think they can use current rules in more effective ways to discourage dangerous/intent to injure type plays. charging is not called properly and most people think it involves 'three strides', when in fact the rule mentions no such thing. The rule is to stop a steamheaded or jumping hit. http://www.nhl.com/rules/rule47.html
Where someone clearly targets the head, an intent to injure call can be made. Simple way to get rid of those hits. If you are bigger, you are just going to have to make sure you dont hit the guy in the head. You are already larger and should be able to make a hockey play without hitting the head.
High sticking and elbowing should take care of of the rest. One change could be to add a major for interference.
