We hear a lot of comments that Tlusty is an AHL player but may not be good enough for the NHL. My thought, he does well in the AHL as he has first line minutes, and I believe pp time as well. When he is called up, he plays in a non-first line role. At least it seems that way. This kid has a lot of skill and I think he needs time on a first line in the NHL. I'd like to see him with real time on the first line. I know he's had chances, but it seems the time is short, and he's mostly on a checking line. I'd like to see him on the first line for a few weeks, not one game.
I know this is a tired thread, and lots of people think he's soft. But I truly believe he has a lot of talent (only 21) and he needs, and only will be successful, if given real time up front on a top line. I see him on the marlies, and his confidence is high, he dominates. Then he comes up and plays a different role.
Bring him up, but not to play 2 games on the 3rd line. Try 1st line for a month.
So this hockey team should sacrifice wins just to try and get Jiri Tlusty some points in the NHL? Sorry, doesn't work like that. Produce or play in the AHL, it's not rocket science.
Not to get him points. I mean give him a chance on the first line, for more than a game. Hey if it doesn't work, move on, team comes first. I get that. But from what I've seen watching marlies games, this kid has a ton of talent. I don't think he's had a good shot at first line minutes to show what he can do in the NHL, and I mean current year. I may be wrong, but what I see of him in the AHL, I'd like to see him with real time on a top line. I believe he'd connect with a kessel type of player.
Sadly I think Tlusty will end up being one of those Leafs prospects who didn't work out here, but end up playing well for whatever team they eventually play for (see. Boyes, Sullivan, etc.)
Sadly I think Tlusty will end up being one of those Leafs prospects who didn't work out here, but end up playing well for whatever team they eventually play for (see. Boyes, Sullivan, etc.)
I don't think it's fair to say Boyes didn't work out here considering he ever actually played an NHL game for us.
He never got the chance but man oh man, I'd love to have Boyes right now
Sadly I think Tlusty will end up being one of those Leafs prospects who didn't work out here, but end up playing well for whatever team they eventually play for (see. Boyes, Sullivan, etc.)
I hear you. That is why I want to see him get some real time on the top line. As I said, more than one game, and not on the 3rd line.
Ron Wilson wants to play the youth in the same roll on both clubs. If they are top 6 in the A then they are top 6 with the Leafs. You can't have an offensive player playing a defensive checking roll. It doesn't work that way.
ah so mitchell came up from the AHL right to first line.
are you ********** serious?
Did I say Mitchell went right to the first line? Is he not a rookie? Hey, I'm not here to argue, just saying what i feel. I go to most marlie games, and all I'm saying is I personally believe Tlusty needs some time on a top line. He excels in the top line role. Whenever he is called up he play's non-first line duties. I'd like to see him with some time up front, 5-10 games. I may wrong, just my thought.
Did I say Mitchell went right to the first line? Is he not a rookie? Hey, I'm not here to argue, just saying what i feel. I go to most marlie games, and all I'm saying is I personally believe Tlusty needs some time on a top line. He excels in the top line role. Whenever he is called up he play's non-first line duties. I'd like to see him with some time up front, 5-10 games. I may wrong, just my thought.
Actually, no, John Mitchell is not a rookie. He played all of last season with the Leafs. He is not been in the AHL since the 2007-2008 season.
Perhaps you are confusing him with Dale Mitchell who is currently playing with the Marlies.
In the NHL you have to earn first line minutes. If you can't play on the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th line and produce better than other players in those lines, how are you more deserving of more ice time?
Claiming Tlusty isn't producing because he isn't being gifted the chances, isn't a good enough reason to place him ahead of players who have earned it.
[quote=rojac;22022212]Actually, no, John Mitchell is not a rookie. He played all of last season with the Leafs. He is not been in the AHL since the 2007-2008 season.
Perhaps you are confusing him with Dale Mitchell who is currently playing with the Marlies.[/QUOTE
know Dale Mitchell well, great 67 player, getting off topic. My point is Tlusty needs time up front, not third line roll. That's all.
Hopefully there will be some trades at the deadline and Tlusty will get a chance at the end of the season. His real chance to break out will be next season, though.
Hopefully there will be some trades at the deadline and Tlusty will get a chance at the end of the season. His real chance to break out will be next season, though.
Talk about Deja Vu. It's always "next season" with Tlusty.
What he really needs is that spot with grabo and kuli to open up for him.
Tlusty might be one of those guys that needs a buffer time to get comfortable in a role rather than having every shift scrutinized tightly, since that approach hasn't really worked out for him. Being on the ice across situations, to get whatever jitters out and let his game flow. He's already pretty defensively responsible, and has shown flashes of creative offensive play. And if the trade off in giving him consistent minutes that might be underwhelming for a little while (while relaxing the stern part of the 'earn the minutes' philosophy for awhile) pays off in a productive 2nd liner at 21-22, then that sounds worth it to me. Some guys are just motivated differently.
Slide Poni up with Kessel and whoever the centre-du-jour is - this will add a big physical presence to that line, and maybe make it a bit more dangerous. Enhances Poni's value potentially, and gives him a bit more of a look to determine if he's worth resigning for that role.
