this may be the wrong forum for this, but i was just watching an interview with ovechkin where he's talking about eating nachos and drinking coke. there's nothing wrong with that when your job consists of training your tail off and playing a sport.....up to a certain point.
in order to maintain peak ability, when does a player have to realize that his body is not the same and that he needs to work out harder and eat better?
can anyone point to specific players.....maybe some interviews that they have done about the subject?
Probably depends on the individual, but what they eat outside of game days isn't very important during the season, they burn a ton of calories and need to take in a lot to maintain weight and fitness. During the offseason or when you're injured you have to watch what you're eating a lot more since you can't work out, and you'll balloon like Wellwood did when his foot was screwed up.
obviously everyone's body is different, but i imagine that if you want to continue to play at an elite level into your late 30's (maybe early 40's?) you'd have to start getting serious about training and eating right sometime around 30-32. am i way off?
Someone once asked Mario Lemieux what he did to train in the off-season and he responded "I don't order fries with my club sandwich".
So, who knows? Ovechkin might never have to.
Difference between a club sandwich and a double baconator is huge though.
Kids today, if you're serious about it... 16. The foundation of a body that you build early is easier to maintain instead of eating ****, having to lose weight, and then build up.
It was disgusting to see Alfredsson eating when Volchenkov was down and it looked very serious. Stuffing himself with nachos is more important than the health of your teammate.
You really never have to as an athlete of his caliber. Eating junk food only effects those that can't burn off the food taken in. Most athletes will burn an access of 5000 calories a day. Accordingly, he probably eats around 5000-6000 calories a day. As long as he keeps burning at that pace, he can keep eating at that pace. You only see athletes get fat when they stop working out for a period of time, but there body still wants the same amount of food. An example being Kyle wellwood, with his injury last year.
Depends on the person. I'm thinking that athletes do eat unhealthy sometimes during the season, but they burn off a lot of that anyways. Some players are stringy, others are like Mike Green.
You really never have to as an athlete of his caliber. Eating junk food only effects those that can't burn off the food taken in. Most athletes will burn an access of 5000 calories a day. Accordingly, he probably eats around 5000-6000 calories a day. As long as he keeps burning at that pace, he can keep eating at that pace. You only see athletes get fat when they stop working out for a period of time, but there body still wants the same amount of food. An example being Kyle wellwood, with his injury last year.
but there's a difference between 1,000 calories of cheesecake and a 1,000 calorie piece of red meat.
Eating junk food in moderation is not a problem for pro athletes. Actually it is not a problem even for the rest of us. You just have to know the limits.
obviously everyone's body is different, but i imagine that if you want to continue to play at an elite level into your late 30's (maybe early 40's?) you'd have to start getting serious about training and eating right sometime around 30-32. am i way off?
As long as they do it in moderation, players can stray from a "healthy" diet every now and again. With the number of calories that Ovy burns in a day, I'm sure he can negate the effects of the odd plate of nachos, can of Coke, or even a rare Baconator here and there.
Difference between a club sandwich and a double baconator is huge though.
Kids today, if you're serious about it... 16. The foundation of a body that you build early is easier to maintain instead of eating ****, having to lose weight, and then build up.
Well, early on, Lemieux was also a smoker (as are many NHL players), so again, it's absolutely surprising what you can get away with IF you're playing and training every day.
Now, I'm not recommending people go out and smoke or eat junk food, mind you. I just think that really, athletes aren't nearly as healthy as we think they are in terms of nutrition or smoking.
Eating junk food in moderation is not a problem for pro athletes. Actually it is not a problem even for the rest of us. You just have to know the limits.
This,as long as he's not only eating nachos and coke, he's probably fine.
I have to cut down on junkfood too, particularly sugary stuff, but there's a difference between cutting down and stopping altogether.And geez, he's 24. What can't you eat at 24?
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As long as they do it in moderation, players can stray from a "healthy" diet every now and again. With the number of calories that Ovy burns in a day, I'm sure he can negate the effects of the odd plate of nachos, can of Coke, or even a rare Baconator here and there.
Urgh, i can hardly even look at a baconator, nevermind eat one. I like a nice burger once in awhile, but a baconator looks like grease city.I mean, while I'm at it, why not pick up a Krispy kreme and substitute it for a bun? A single big Bacon Classic is my limit , and even then I usually only eat about 80% of it.
Well, early on, Lemieux was also a smoker (as are many NHL players), so again, it's absolutely surprising what you can get away with IF you're playing and training every day.
Now, I'm not recommending people go out and smoke or eat junk food, mind you. I just think that really, athletes aren't nearly as healthy as we think they are in terms of nutrition or smoking.
Well of course, especially the drinkers on the team. I lived in North Tampa for a while and the guys that would show up at Bennigans and drink like fish were ridiculous. We all have our "unhealthy" habits to a certain degree (I cant help it, I want a works pizza and a cheesesteak once in a while).
But, as age comes more and more into play, it hits you a lot harder when you eat good food and exercise, and when you eat **** and exercise.
When we're talking about body composition and strength fitness, it really doesen't matter what kind of food you are eating, as long as you are getting the proper macros.
Obviously there are health concerns, but a bodybuilder can eat McDonalds four times a week and as long as he's getting his protein, calories, and carbs it won't effect his performance.
Well of course, especially the drinkers on the team. I lived in North Tampa for a while and the guys that would show up at Bennigans and drink like fish were ridiculous. We all have our "unhealthy" habits to a certain degree (I cant help it, I want a works pizza and a cheesesteak once in a while).
But, as age comes more and more into play, it hits you a lot harder when you eat good food and exercise, and when you eat **** and exercise.
Yeah, maybe. But some players are just freaks of nature. And add into it that they're burning TONS of calories a day, and sometimes, nutrition just doesn't matter. Sometimes it does, I'll not lie, but the drop off in skills is going to happen at some point no matter what a player does and it's not entirely clear how much one's diet has to do anything with it a lot of times.
It's when these guys hang up the skates or during the off-season (see: Keith Tkachuk) that the problems hit.
but there's a difference between 1,000 calories of cheesecake and a 1,000 calorie piece of red meat.
Yes, of course there is but I am assuming, that being an athlete, he is getting all the proper nutrition before he chooses to eat some chips and drink some coke.
When we're talking about body composition and strength fitness, it really doesen't matter what kind of food you are eating, as long as you are getting the proper macros.
Obviously there are health concerns, but a bodybuilder can eat McDonalds four times a week and as long as he's getting his protein, calories, and carbs it won't effect his performance.
Absolutely not. Theres a difference between exhausting any kind of calories ala Mike Phelps, but hockey players aren't quite at that level.
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Yeah, maybe. But some players are just freaks of nature. And add into it that they're burning TONS of calories a day, and sometimes, nutrition just doesn't matter. Sometimes it does, I'll not lie, but the drop off in skills is going to happen at some point no matter what a player does and it's not entirely clear how much one's diet has to do anything with it a lot of times.
It's when these guys hang up the skates or during the off-season (see: Keith Tkachuk) that the problems hit.
I know what you're saying, and hockey players burn a lot of cals, but they're not on that same level, and they can also help delay that dropoff in skill with proper nutrition, younger players can make bodies more efficient but controlling the types of food going into the body. Gary Roberts and Steve Stamkos, for example. Garys nutrition and workouts are ridiculous and for being nearly into mid 40s, hes probably in better shape than 90% of people on here. He has worked with Stamkos since his first game last season and it shows. Everytime you see the boy, hes got a plate of chicken wings.
Absolutely not. Theres a difference between exhausting any kind of calories ala Mike Phelps, but hockey players aren't quite at that level.
I know what you're saying, and hockey players burn a lot of cals, but they're not on that same level, and they can also help delay that dropoff in skill with proper nutrition, younger players can make bodies more efficient but controlling the types of food going into the body. Gary Roberts and Steve Stamkos, for example. Garys nutrition and workouts are ridiculous and for being nearly into mid 40s, hes probably in better shape than 90% of people on here. He has worked with Stamkos since his first game last season and it shows. Everytime you see the boy, hes got a plate of chicken wings.
Yeah, but Roberts' training was also made necessary by several nasty injuries that kept him sidelined for huge amounts of time.
And anyhow, during the season, don't most of these players work out with the team's nutritionist anyhow? I really doubt most of them are eating car fulls of bacon cheeseburgers and McDonalds all the time.