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Stajan: Keep him or Let him go?

View Poll Results: What to do with Stajan's in his contract year?
KEEP HIM , he's a good player 19 20.43%
TOSS HIM OUT, he stinks 40 43.01%
TOO EARLY, wait til mid-way point of the season 34 36.56%
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11-04-2009, 01:56 AM
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Stajan: Keep him or Let him go?

I know it's very early, but I seriously don't know what to do with this guy...He is the poster boy of inconsistency. Tonight, he pratically cost us the game with his bad tunrover and lack of finish. He's dont nothing to impress me, maybe some nice spurts here and there. I personally woulnd't want him on my team, he's smart without the puck, but he's soft and lacks skill and finish. Like I said, he may show little spurts but he never seems to translate over a long stretch.

I don't know, I'd personally would let him go; trade him or let him walk.

Eventhough based on what you've seen so far and throughout his career, what would you do with Matt Stajan contact situation this year?
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11-04-2009, 01:57 AM
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Milk this cow for all it's worth at the deadline and send it on it's way. If you can get a second, try not to laugh hysterically before making the trade call.
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11-04-2009, 02:00 AM
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pretty much, I really doubt he is in Burke's longterm plans.
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11-04-2009, 02:01 AM
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Milk this cow for all it's worth at the deadline and send it on it's way.
he would fill the role of 3rd line center quite well, throw Grabovski in with Kessel and have Mitchell center the 2nd line
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11-04-2009, 02:02 AM
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I couldn't ever be a fan of a team with Mitchell on the second line.
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11-04-2009, 02:05 AM
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I couldn't ever be a fan of a team with Mitchell on the second line.
I know...we seriously need to start setting our standards high...To me, mitchell is a top end AHLer, and at best a 4th liner, and he's proving it more and more this season. He's been terrible. I'd send him down and bring up Hanson to fill his role.
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11-04-2009, 02:18 AM
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depends how much he wants. Stajan at $1.5 mil would be a great deal, and seeing Chad LaRose signed for $1.7 in this market, I don't see Matt getting much more than that.
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11-04-2009, 02:30 AM
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I agree, Stajan is FAR from a first line player... but on the 3rd line or possibly the 2nd line, I think he would excel. I say keep him, but the bigger question is who can center the first line. If we can find a high caliber player, someone to be in the limelight, someone who can handle the pressure, then Stajan gives a lot of depth as 2nd or 3rd liner. but as a first, he just isn`t talented enough.
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I agree, Stajan is FAR from a first line player... but on the 3rd line or possibly the 2nd line, I think he would excel. I say keep him, but the bigger question is who can center the first line. If we can find a high caliber player, someone to be in the limelight, someone who can handle the pressure, then Stajan gives a lot of depth as 2nd or 3rd liner. but as a first, he just isn`t talented enough.
I agree Stajan is FFFFAAARRRR from first line material. The problem is that he isn't 2nd line or 3rd line material either, atleast in Burke's makeup of what the team should be. Personally I don't think Stajan has the skill to be a top 6 guy...atleast a legit teams top 6. You can't put him on the bottom 6 because he's too damn soft. Although he's reliable in the defensive aspects, he struggles to maintain much of any offensive surgency.
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11-04-2009, 03:32 AM
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Well I'd probably agree with let him go as far as he can and see what is there at the deadline. Probably isn't in the long term plans. Doesn't have the pure skill needed for the top lines. A solid player just can see Burke letting him go.

Of course brings the question of who is going to be on the top lines, but this is about Stajan's future. I think you can see him go without saying he stinks, just that he doesn't fit the plan Burke has.
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11-04-2009, 05:20 AM
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Most likely Burke will try to move him at the trade deadline, like he did with Antropov and Moore last year. Hopefully, if he keeps playing with Kessel, he'll put up some decent numbers and become a more tradeable commodity.

I'd be happy if we got a 2nd for him. God knows we need the picks.
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11-04-2009, 07:12 AM
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Most likely Burke will try to move him at the trade deadline, like he did with Antropov and Moore last year. Hopefully, if he keeps playing with Kessel, he'll put up some decent numbers and become a more tradeable commodity.

I'd be happy if we got a 2nd for him. God knows we need the picks.
Did we not try to inflate the numbers for the players last season so their value would rise with out it working with the added affect that an already struggling goalie got even less help and looked terrible?

The other GM´s done just look at the numbers. They send out scouts or look at a player them self before making a trade.

But other then that I agree with you. Lets trade him and if we get a 2nd for him. Great.
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11-04-2009, 07:34 AM
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Underrated... again.

He & Blake made great linemates for Kessel. They did a fantastic job of digging the puck up for Kessel for him to shoot. 19 shots. 10 shots on goal.

Also, despite Tampa's slow start, they have a huge number of offensive weapons, and the Leafs did a pretty damn good job to limit their chances.
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Underrated... again.

He & Blake made great linemates for Kessel. They did a fantastic job of digging the puck up for Kessel for him to shoot. 19 shots. 10 shots on goal.

Also, despite Tampa's slow start, they have a huge number of offensive weapons, and the Leafs did a pretty damn good job to limit their chances.
All I saw was Blake and Kessel. Oh, and some really awkward attempts at stickwork from Stajan. He actually looks uncoordinated, if that's possible for a professional athlete. Dead weight.
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All I saw was Blake and Kessel. Oh, and some really awkward attempts at stickwork from Stajan. He actually looks uncoordinated, if that's possible for a professional athlete. Dead weight.
You got to be kidding me. Stajan did some very very impressive passes last night. He isn't a flashy player, but that shouldn't be a reason why you should dislike him. Some people
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he would fill the role of 3rd line center quite well, throw Grabovski in with Kessel and have Mitchell center the 2nd line
I would try this first, but just to be on the safe side. If it didn't work out fairly quickly, I would let him go for as high a draft choice as I could get if no plausible player trades were on the table.
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he would fill the role of 3rd line center quite well, throw Grabovski in with Kessel and have Mitchell center the 2nd line
I don't like Stajan much, but the only thing stupider than giving Stajan top 6 minutes is replacing him with Mitchell.

He's gotta go at the deadline IMO, though.
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I don't like Stajan much, but the only thing stupider than giving Stajan top 6 minutes is replacing him with Mitchell.

He's gotta go at the deadline IMO, though.
Give Stajan some 3rd line duty´s and throw Wallin on Kessels line with Stalberg.

Stalberg with his pace and energy is the perfect screener in front of net and he got a nice shot to. Wallin hard working 2-way centre who is a team first guy and Kessel with his all me me me game would benefit from playing with those two. Atleast try it out a couple of games to see how they do.
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Wallin playing 1st line? FFS.

The only better option that Kessel playing with Stajan IMO, is calling up Bozak and lettimg them get chemistry together.

IMO, Send Blake and Mitchell/Tlusty Down. Bring up Bozak and Stalberg.

Stalberg-Bozak-Kessel
Ponikarovsky-Grabovski-Kulemin
Hagman-Stajan-Stempniak
Rosehill/Wallin-Primeau-Orr

Kaberle-Komisarek
Beachemin-White
Exelby-Schenn

Gustavsson
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he would fill the role of 3rd line center quite well, throw Grabovski in with Kessel and have Mitchell center the 2nd line
Stajan may not be anything special, but he is much better than Mitchell.
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11-04-2009, 09:16 AM
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Ponikarovsky-Grabovski-Kessel. And keep them together for five games. Your best LWer, your best C and your best RW. Then, try to figure out a checking unit for Line 3. Once you establish a first and third line, the second line should be easier to figure out.

Is it me, or are Burke and Wilson on total opposite spectrums when it comes to how to build a lineup?

You guys played pretty well last night, and deserved two points. It was a fun game to watch. But you won't get to where you wanna go with Matt Stajan centering Line 1. That has to stop A S A P, imo.
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Trade him for the best offer at the deadline. A solid player, much better than people given him credit for, and great value for drafting him in Round 2. That being said, a mid-tier player you don't give UFA dollars too. Save the $$ for a top-line player and replace Stajan with Bozak or Kadri next season.
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I think the only reason Grabo isn't Kessel's center is because his line is ALREADY creating offence. Grabo made two sweet passes last night, something which Stajan isn't capable of.

Stajan is a bum, he doesn't do anything particularly well and he disappears for long stretches. Last night he was invisible on that line, despite them being dominate. It was Blake and Kessel, Stajan was a passenger all night.

If we can get a second for Stajan, or package him, I say go for it at the soonest opportunity. It's like Steen, people see this and that, but once they're gone, nobody notices. We are never a playoff team with Stajan on the top two lines. Give Bozak a chance, we have Kadri next year, we don't need Stajan.
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Keep him if he comes back as the 3rd line centre who can fill in the #2 hole. We desperately need a bonafide #1 centre. What we have now just isn't going to cut it. We saw Sundin's talent wasted with subpar wingers. I don't want to see Kessel's talent wasted with a subpar centre.
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Hilarious, Stajan's line gets 16 shots on goal and he steps in to get Ohlund after the Kessel hit and people want him gone the next day.

Don't ever change.
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