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10-27-2009, 04:50 AM
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Parse, Purcell, or Moller? Who Goes Down When Williams Returns?

When williams comes back who should go down? Purcell or Parse? Or should moller get the spot? Would like to see moller getting the ice time and experience but have been impressed with parse so far. Im just tired of watching purcell fan on shots and avoid contact. Thoughts?
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Parse, hands down.

Does all the little things, even made Stoll finally come around...
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Parse. Moller needs some time in the AHL and Purcell has not been good since the third game.
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10-27-2009, 05:31 AM
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Purcell, because he asked who should go down.
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Alec Martinez or Trevor Lewis should go down, but if only between the two P's, then Purcell.

Smyth - Kopitar - Williams
Frolov - Handzus - Brown
Parse - Stoll - Simmonds
Ivanans/Richardson/Harrold/Purcell

There's nothing really left for the Kings to learn of Purcell by sending him down. Let him watch a few games from the press box and then put him back in there for one of the 4th liners or Parse if he falters. This should be a make or break year for Purcell with the Kings. He either proves to them he's a valuable member of the NHL lineup or he finds a new home this off-season.
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10-27-2009, 09:14 AM
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Purcell and his one way contract aren't going anywhere. The only real likely candidates to be sent to Manchester are Parse, Lewis, or Martinez. Purcell has nothing to prove in the AHL.
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I would rather keep Purcell. You can't fully lose your job after just two games, Purcell has played well on just as many games as he hasn't and plus his has a one-way contract, I wouldn't want to lose him over this unless it is through a trade.
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At this point nobody has to go down, the Kings were carrying a 22 man roster before the Williams injury. I think the Kings will continue to roll with these guys and let Purcell and Parse battle it out for icetime.
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Alec Martinez or Trevor Lewis should go down, but if only between the two P's, then Purcell.

Smyth - Kopitar - Williams
Frolov - Handzus - Brown
Parse - Stoll - Simmonds
Ivanans/Richardson/Harrold/Purcell

There's nothing really left for the Kings to learn of Purcell by sending him down. Let him watch a few games from the press box and then put him back in there for one of the 4th liners or Parse if he falters. This should be a make or break year for Purcell with the Kings. He either proves to them he's a valuable member of the NHL lineup or he finds a new home this off-season.
Good point. I think it should be martinez.
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I would rather keep Purcell. You can't fully lose your job after just two games, Purcell has played well on just as many games as he hasn't and plus his has a one-way contract, I wouldn't want to lose him over this unless it is through a trade.
One-way contract has nothing to do with us losing him. He either is waiver eligible due to age/experience or he isn't, contract does not effect that. I am pretty sure Purcell is not waiver eligible right now.
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One-way contract has nothing to do with us losing him. He either is waiver eligible due to age/experience or he isn't, contract does not effect that. I am pretty sure Purcell is not waiver eligible right now.
I understand that, but you know what I meant, and I really doubt that he wouldn't have to pass through waivers if we wanted to send him down. Anyone around that can confirm this? Either way, if we send him down, we might as well be trading him or sending him to another team... This is his last chance.
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Did I miss something...I thought Moller was back in the AHL?
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Did I miss something...I thought Moller was back in the AHL?
You didn't. He is
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Did I miss something...I thought Moller was back in the AHL?
The discussion is over who, out of the three, should fill the roster spot.
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I know there was a thread with a fairly lengthy discussion about it, but I can't recall what the final decision was anymore on Purcell's waiver status.

He signed his contract when he was 21 so the CBA says that he gets 3 years or 80 NHL games from the time he plays his first professional game.

He played in Manchester in 2007-2008 so that becomes the first year. That means I think it should look like this:

2007-2008: Waiver Exempt
2008-2009: Waiver Exempt
2009-2010: Waiver Exempt
2010-2011: Waiver Eligible

But I believe that's only going to hold up until he plays in his 80th NHL game and he's at 62 games played right now.
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Lewis and Martinez need to go down.
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I understand that, but you know what I meant, and I really doubt that he wouldn't have to pass through waivers if we wanted to send him down. Anyone around that can confirm this? Either way, if we send him down, we might as well be trading him or sending him to another team... This is his last chance.
If I am not wrong Purcell wouldn't have to be put on waivers 2 games ago, but has to clear waivers now. Purcell stays in NHL it seems.

Edit: Ok, I might be wrong, as one other post suggests... I thought it was 60 games for Purcell. If it is 80, then there is still time. 60 is for goalies.
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If I am not wrong Purcell wouldn't have to be put on waivers 2 games ago, but has to clear waivers now. Purcell stays in NHL it seems.

Edit: Ok, I might be wrong, as one other post suggests... I thought it was 60 games for Purcell. If it is 80, then there is still time...
I made that same mistake before too. 60 is for 21 year old goalies and 80 is for 21 year old skaters.
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Lewis and Martinez need to go down. I'm not a fan of keep young guys who could be quality NHL players sitting in the press box.
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I would put Williams on the line with Stoll and Purcell and have Parse slide down to the 4th line taking Harrold's spot.

If they have to send someone down, send Lewis down and Martinez when he is healthy. Keep Harrold on as the 7th d-man/13th forward.

If Purcell can't turn things around and Parse still looks good, maybe insert Clune on to the 4th line when he's ready to go and move Parse back up with Stoll and Williams.
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gotta keep parse with stoll for now, since he's basically doing what purcell is supposed to do--see the ice well and get the puck to stoll for shots on net. purcell hasn't been horrible, but he just doesn't seem to be quite quick enough to consistently create offensive chances.
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Personally, I'd warn against getting too high on Parse after only two games. I think the love fest with Brian Boyle and then to a lesser degree the crush on Teddy Purcell after some success on the power play last year should be a lesson to take a slower, wait and see approach to young players in general.

Once the opponents get a better scouting report on a player they'll start adjusting how they defend against them and you could see a sharp drop in production.

Which doesn't necessarily mean the prospect sucks, mind you, since it's not good to go on the other end of the extreme either.
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Personally, I'd warn against getting too high on Parse after only two games. I think the love fest with Brian Boyle and then to a lesser degree the crush on Teddy Purcell after some success on the power play last year should be a lesson to take a slower, wait and see approach to young players in general.

Once the opponents get a better scouting report on a player they'll start adjusting how they defend against them and you could see a sharp drop in production.

Which doesn't necessarily mean the prospect sucks, mind you, since it's not good to go on the other end of the extreme either.
I don't think anyone's getting too high on Parse by penciling him in for some more 3rd line or 4th line duty when Williams returns. It's more an indictment of Purcell's play, which has been on a steady decline with each passing game.

Neither Purcell or Parse have shown anything that should make any fans think there's a lot of long-term untapped potential, but Parse has been very good these last two games (sans the two penalties against the Jackets) and he deserves to play right now over Purcell at least until either of them shows otherwise.
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Did I miss something...I thought Moller was back in the AHL?
I thought so. Besides, Moller has proven nothing in his time this year. He needs AHL time. I think Purcell should get all the NHL ice time. I'm tired of our last two coaches being so reactionary with players.
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By the way, Brian Boyle has been very good for the Rangers. Ranger fans love him and their announcers gush over his skill and game play. Let's not screw ourselves with Purcell.
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