Ference is not an offensive defenseman. He is undersized, doesn't ever release a shot that gets through to the net... or so it seems. He's undersized and doesn't win battles in the attacking zone for the puck, which leads to beautiful 200 ft clears.
Zdeno Chara, Derek Morris, Dennis Wideman, Matt Hunwick, these are the guys you want to see on the PP at the point. Ference is garbage.
Does anyone have any theory behind Ference manning the point? Could it be that Julien is doing his very best to showcase Ference for other, prospective teams?
Ference is not an offensive defenseman. He is undersized, doesn't ever release a shot that gets through to the net... or so it seems. He's undersized and doesn't win battles in the attacking zone for the puck, which leads to beautiful 200 ft clears.
Zdeno Chara, Derek Morris, Dennis Wideman, Matt Hunwick, these are the guys you want to see on the PP at the point. Ference is garbage.
Does anyone have any theory behind Ference manning the point? Could it be that Julien is doing his very best to showcase Ference for other, prospective teams?
There was a point a couple of years ago when Ference was playing well; maybe Julien's hoping he can get back to that. I agree with everything you wrote, except Wideman. He has been as bad as Ference. He needs to get his act together. He makes very bad decisions in all situations.
There was a point a couple of years ago when Ference was playing well; maybe Julien's hoping he can get back to that. I agree with everything you wrote, except Wideman. He has been as bad as Ference. He needs to get his act together. He makes very bad decisions in all situations.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Wideman either. Except he does have a shot at the very least, which might mean nothing when he makes poor decisions leading to shorthanded breakouts like in the Anaheim game.
Sadly, Wideman IS one of our best defensemen. It's sad to think that Aaron Ward was truly that important, leadership and stability wise, to our defensive core. It's not a matter of disrespect. It's simply representative of the state of pathetic our defense is at right now.
Ference is not an offensive defenseman. He is undersized, doesn't ever release a shot that gets through to the net... or so it seems. He's undersized and doesn't win battles in the attacking zone for the puck, which leads to beautiful 200 ft clears.
Zdeno Chara, Derek Morris, Dennis Wideman, Matt Hunwick, these are the guys you want to see on the PP at the point. Ference is garbage.
Does anyone have any theory behind Ference manning the point? Could it be that Julien is doing his very best to showcase Ference for other, prospective teams?
I think Therien likes Andrew for some reason, and since he's the one responsible for the final outcome it's his word that puts Ferrence on PP not ours.
I think Therien likes Andrew for some reason, and since he's the one responsible for the final outcome it's his word that puts Ferrence on PP not ours.
I think Therien likes Andrew for some reason, and since he's the one responsible for the final outcome it's his word that puts Ferrence on PP not ours.
Well duh who says it's anybody's decision on this friggen board. But isn't the whole point of this place to discuss matters that are relevant to the team?
I think you missed the point of my post or meant to quote someone else.
Sorry, I meant to just hit reply but I clicked quote on the last post (yours).
But in regards to your question I hope its rhetorical because he'll be on the roster unless a trade is made but I don't think many teams would want him. He has more value playing on this team than anything he could be traded for.
Sorry, I meant to just hit reply but I clicked quote on the last post (yours).
But in regards to your question I hope its rhetorical because he'll be on the roster unless a trade is made but I don't think many teams would want him. He has more value playing on this team than anything he could be traded for.
ahhh, ok.
the value you'd get is having the worst defenseman on the roster.......off the roster. it's called addition by subtraction.
the value you'd get is having the worst defenseman on the roster.......off the roster. it's called addition by subtraction.
I disagree, but perhaps you could explain how that could be done? Which team needs his skill set and wants to take on his salary. Apparently you're a fan but how do we know how Boychuk can perform as a #6? Who becomes the number 7?
It's not as simple as just making him disappear off the roster, and besides, removing the worst defenseman off the roster means sending Boychuk to PRO(who now has a 1-way contract).
I disagree, but perhaps you could explain how that could be done? Which team needs his skill set and wants to take on his salary. Apparently you're a fan but how do we know how Boychuk can perform as a #6? Who becomes the number 7?
It's not as simple as just making him disappear off the roster, and besides, removing the worst defenseman off the roster means sending Boychuk to PRO(who now has a 1-way contract).
I don't care if his contract has to be "terminated."
it'd be good to have him off the roster any way possible. and as I said in another thread, Boychuk couldn't possibly be as bad as Ference.
I'd definitely rate Boychuk over Ference. defense a bit better, on offense, the Eddie Shore award winning Boychuk a million times better.
I don't care if his contract has to be "terminated."
it'd be good to have him off the roster any way possible. and as I said in another thread, Boychuk couldn't possibly be as bad as Ference.
I'd definitely rate Boychuk over Ference. defense a bit better, on offense, the Eddie Shore award winning Boychuk a million times better.
Well "terminating" his contract won't be possible. Buying him out would be a poor decision given the cap situation. I haven't heard Wideman's status but in the near future you can't even bench him in the case the Wideman's out. I don't see how Ference doesn't play let alone not be on the roster.
but we have an offensive dman who's better than Ference........that's been a healthy scratch every game so far
You mean the 25 year-old who just made his first NHL roster to start the season? AHL points be damned--5 NHL games under Boychuk's belt does not make him a better player (offensive, defensive, what have you) than Ference. Ference had more games in the NHL when he was 20 than Boychuk has had in his 25 years on this planet. There's a reason for that.
Great season last year in the AHL -- tons of points -- but that was a 24 year-old playing with a majority of 19-22 year-old players. Let's not get carried away with his ability to step in at a true NHL level. Don't get me wrong, I like Boychuk. I just don't think he's the answer to any question we're asking right now.
I hate to sound worked up, but this Ference bashing is hyperbolic. He plays the puck well at the point and passes well--that's what Julien is looking for from the point, apparently. Hunwick is playing like a squirrel on ten lattes right now--indecisive, at best. He would likely be a disaster at the point, for the time being.
You know who the best Dmen outside the top pairing are so far? Stuart and Ference. Hunwick and Wideman are having the slow start, not Ference.
And to top it all off, you know which dmen get more PP time than Ference? Chara, Wideman, AND Morris.
What's funny is that people are saying that they wish Hnidy was still here because of Ference.
I like Ference and I understand what he brings to the table. I liked Hnidy too and I understood his role. Why can't certain people be happy without constantly complaining about a certain player?
