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10-10-2009, 10:10 AM
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Jack Todd: How can a sports journalist be so ill informed?

In today's Montreal Gazette there is an article by Todd regarding Carey Price, and his fragile psychological state.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...267/story.html

He goes on to say if Price can't handle the pressure he should be sent to Hamilton. How can he, or the sports editor for that matter, not know that he would have to go through waivers?? It boggles the mind how stupidities like this occur on a regular basis with this guy.
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In today's Montreal Gazette there is an article by Todd regarding Carey Price, and his fragile psychological state.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...267/story.html

He goes on to say if Price can't handle the pressure he should be sent to Hamilton. How can he, or the sports editor for that matter, not know that he would have to go through waivers?? It boggles the mind how stupidities like this occur on a regular basis with this guy.
He could easily be sent to Hamilton on a two-week conditioning stint, no need for waivers in that case.
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10-10-2009, 10:20 AM
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the point of going down to hamilton isnt really the focus in this article.

Jack Todd is an emotional and non-sensical opinion columnist. He does not report fact, he cites how he feels.
He compares Carey Price to Patrick Roy's body language.
How about Lunongo's body language when he was shelled last week? Or when he cried in the playoffs- should Lunongo he sent down as well?

One thing i do agree with is that Carey Price either looks unbeatable in a game, or looks like he will be destroyed. Once you saw tose 3 goals in the first, you knew he was cooked. Im not blaming him, cause our D sucked, but you could tell he was ripe for the picking.

Like Todd said, he stopped challenging the shooters, and he kinda sagged in his net.

That is something he has to work on.
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He could easily be sent to Hamilton on a two-week conditioning stint, no need for waivers in that case.
Correct - but that's not what he's talking about. If it ever got as far as Price being sent to Hamilton, it's not going to fix itself in two weeks.
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Todd like any other Montreal Media Meathead is over reacting, is the sky falling in Carolina after they lost 7-2?

Is the season over in Vancouver because Luongo has played one good game?

Are Jersey destined for the 1st overall pick because Broduer has been subpar?

Are the Bruins and Tim Thomas over rated?

Only in Montreal folks.
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He could easily be sent to Hamilton on a two-week conditioning stint, no need for waivers in that case.
You give Todd way too much credit to think of that.
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10-10-2009, 10:33 AM
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In today's Montreal Gazette there is an article by Todd regarding Carey Price, and his fragile psychological state.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...267/story.html

He goes on to say if Price can't handle the pressure he should be sent to Hamilton. How can he, or the sports editor for that matter, not know that he would have to go through waivers?? It boggles the mind how stupidities like this occur on a regular basis with this guy.
You should run your posts by an editor too, because you missed the point and misrepresented Todd's writing.

The thrust of Todd's article is correct, although the timing (after a bad loss) seems opportune, possibly as the result of Todd having this article in his draft folder all summer waiting for the right moment to make his point.

Price has been fragile in the past, tonight we'll see if he's hardening. It's a familiar story.
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10-10-2009, 10:36 AM
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You guys aren't the only ones. It's up and down in Toronto and Ottawa as well. It's really silly. I wish people could chill a bit more and not jump to conclusions right away. Oh well! That's life!
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Todd like any other Montreal Media Meathead is over reacting, is the sky falling in Carolina after they lost 7-2?

Is the season over in Vancouver because Luongo has played one good game?

Are Jersey destined for the 1st overall pick because Broduer has been subpar?

Are the Bruins and Tim Thomas over rated?

Only in Montreal folks.
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You should run your posts by an editor too, because you missed the point and misrepresented Todd's writing.

The thrust of Todd's article is correct, although the timing (after a bad loss) seems opportune, possibly as the result of Todd having this article in his draft folder all summer waiting for the right moment to make his point.

Price has been fragile in the past, tonight we'll see if he's hardening. It's a familiar story.
The "thrust" of my post is regarding Todd's solution of fixing the problem by sending him to Hamilton. It's mentioned twice in the article.

It's very old this constant comment of "send him to Hamilton to get his game back" It get's tired with people suggesting a solution that is by all means simply not possible. What's the point of putting that in the article? Shouldn't he know as a sports journalist that that is not a possibility? I don't give two cents about him writing an article about Price's fragile state, but don't propose an non solution to the problem.

By the way in the actual Gazette newspaper, the highlighted article comment in boldface print reads "better working his problems out in Hamilton that struggling here"

That's ridiculous - sorry but I don't know how you can fault me for pointing that out.
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@ Habspinner: You're right, sometimes the sports journalists lacks knowledges.

I'm pretty sure that Jack Todd doens't even know that the habs cannot send Carey Price to the bullsdogs

It's funny how in the training camp, the journalist look only to the on ice performance on the rookie without knowing their contrats.

A guy who has one way contrat has more chance to crack the roster than a guy who has a two way contrat (even if the two contract might have been better in camp)

A guy who is 20 yr old has less chance to make the roster than a guy who has some pro experiences

A guy who need to go through waiver if send down has more chance to make the roster.

Sometimes the journalists doesn't even knows or recall theses basics facts.
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Jack Todd is nothing more the an average sports writer who should have retired years ago when he said he was going to. The article might have had some basis in reality last year in the second half but at this point I think Carey's head is much more into it then last year.
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10-10-2009, 12:20 PM
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Jack Todd should consider writing a gossip column. He knows next to nothing about hockey, I think he was hired to cover the expos.


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The gazette should send Todd to the minors, hes a horrible journalist. Loved how Breezer outed him during his press conference. Todd u can suck it
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Todd doesn't have Brisebois as the outlet for his bile anymore, he has to find a new whipping boy. Is he still complaining about the sound level at the Bell Centre?

Heroes: Carey Price Zeroes: Jack Todd
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Jack Todd and Réjean Tremblay are competing for a title no one wants. And Réjean Tremblay is fighting also at an other level with a former girlfriend as the worst tv writer.
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You know, I really wonder at which point Price's mental strength, which was a strength of his before he joined the Habs, became a porcelain-fragile psyche?
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Let's look at that canucks game:

The canucks and Luongo were heavily under fire by the home side and media (sound familiar)

The Habs are playing their 2nd game in two nights drawing that team

They left Price hanging out to dry with odd man rushes and clear breaks

He was pelted in his first two games and was the big difference

Habs are down two starting D men, one of which is our best player

So as I see it Todd is saying we should send the kid to Hamilton to make him feel better about that situation. Or at least handle it better?

Sorry but it makes no sense to me.
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You guys aren't the only ones. It's up and down in Toronto and Ottawa as well. It's really silly. I wish people could chill a bit more and not jump to conclusions right away. Oh well! That's life!
That's life in a Hockey Country like Canada, why do you think we are the best in the world. " BECAUSE WE ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT OUR HOCKEY"
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Aww the evil french media.
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He could easily be sent to Hamilton on a two-week conditioning stint, no need for waivers in that case.
I believe the Canadiens would have to prove to the NHL that Price had a legitimate injury that needs rehabbing in order to do that. As far as I know, he doesn't.
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I believe the Canadiens would have to prove to the NHL that Price had a legitimate injury that needs rehabbing in order to do that. As far as I know, he doesn't.
I don't think that's necessary, but I believe the player would have to sign off on it and there's no way Price would or should go to Hamilton.
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Aww the evil french media.
Fact they were part of the Axis of Evil. The only ones the allied forces couldn't stop.
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This thread is simply a Jack Todd hater convention.

Once again people just read "blah blah blah Price blah blah Hamilton " oh Todd must be an idiot.

the article gives Price credit for a good start, and that his team let themselves down in Vancouver. But the main points are:

1) Price has a history of slumping mentally
2) Team management has in the past not handled that well, last year asking him to working out his problems on the job night after night despite poor performance and having Halak as an alternative.
3) His poor play and posture on the Vancouver game is a possible hint the cycle may be starting again.
4) The coach needs to act on these signs earlier than last year and manage him better. Leaving Price in for 7 goals the other night is cited as not a way to do this.


Possibly premature, but the article's ideas are founded. Todd is early in reminding us of the cautionary tale but he's not an idiot.
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