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09-23-2009, 06:31 PM
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Article sheds new light on leafs rookie trio

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news....id=DL|TOR|home

I think this really swayed my opinion on the rookie trio before, I don't know. I guess I just never considered the new guys as legit players this season.
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He kind of lost me a bit when he said signing Gustavsson was a gamble. If someone gives you a free lottery ticket, you're not gambling.
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as much as i agree they need ot his lines make no sense.There is no way Mayer sor even Primeau stay and Kulemin gets scratched lines should be

Hagman-Stajan-Blake
Stalberg-Bozak-Hanson
Stemp-Grabovski-Kulemin
Orr-Mitchell-Rosehill/Wallin

Mayers was injured last night and has done nothing before that. Rosehill is much better. Not only does thast give youth but also some vetrans to help. that gives us 4 lines that can score and also the toughness needed
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Wow, that's a pretty bold article, Stajan and Poni on the third line? I dunno...
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Wow, that's a pretty bold article, Stajan and Poni on the third line? I dunno...
And no mention of stemp
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And no mention of stemp
yeah he looks a little different out there, still stupid but a bit bigger and faster, something that will help him make the team
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as much as i agree they need ot his lines make no sense.There is no way Mayer sor even Primeau stay and Kulemin gets scratched lines should be

Hagman-Stajan-Blake
Stalberg-Bozak-Hanson
Stemp-Grabovski-Kulemin
Orr-Mitchell-Rosehill/Wallin

Mayers was injured last night and has done nothing before that. Rosehill is much better. Not only does thast give youth but also some vetrans to help. that gives us 4 lines that can score and also the toughness needed
I agree about Mayers, but I seriously doubt Burke waives Primeau, he's here to stay for the time being.
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that's a retarded lineup Ulmer makes...
but Ulmer appears slightly retarded when you see him do interviews
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Everything looks hunky-dory in exhibition season but around January when these kids are sucking wind it won't be quite as pretty.
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that's a retarded lineup Ulmer makes...
but Ulmer appears slightly retarded when you see him do interviews
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I won't lie when I say I think Stalberg-Bozak-Hanson has certainly been the most entertaining trio to watch here in quite a few years, and that I'd love to see them on the team ASAP.

But the Frosh Line should and will start in the Marlies, and depending on who falls to injury will be called up one by one throughout the year. We lose a top six center, Bozak is up. We lose a top six winger, Stalberg. We lose a bottom six player, Hanson will get his shot. They're gonna be quite the asset I think due to the flexibility the Leafs are now afforded.

We shall see Stalberg-Bozak-Hanson in Toronto full time next season, and they won't be with the Marlies.
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Ulmer says "And the risk? None, really. These are men, not kids, so if poor play leads to a demotion to the Marlies, it’s a lesson well-learned."

Which doesn't take into account the whole "make the playoffs" thing. Not saying they couldn't make the post season with the kids, but it is a bit of a gamble.
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I have Kulemin ahead of Hanson. I think Hanson has been helped by playing with Bozak and Stalhberg, but he could use time in the AHL more than the others.

A veteran will definitely find them self in the doghouse early in the year just as Wilson did to Stajan last year.
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They should be on the marlies. Each will get a chance this year. None of them have stolen jobs per say.
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I don't know if they have stolen any jobs yet, with the exception of Bozak.

If these 3 go to the Marlie's and run it up for 10 games, they will get the call.

Odds are 10 games in someone is injured and a couple of guys are playing bad.

That being said, I think Stalberg will make the team initially, while Tlusty (possibly Kulemin as well) will get sent down.

Stalberg and Bozak are getting attention, but Hanson was really flying last night. He has much better skating than he is given credit for.
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Mayers, Stempniak, Kulemin, Tlusty and possibly Wallin should be in the AHL. They haven't done much this preseason to show they deserve a spot. "What you have done for me" means nothing, it's "what you are doing for me right now" what counts.

Bozak, Stalberg, Hanson, Kadri, all deserve a spot. But I would understand if Kadri was sent down cause he is so young and it wouldn't hurt for him to dominate the OHL.
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as much as i agree they need ot his lines make no sense.There is no way Mayer sor even Primeau stay and Kulemin gets scratched lines should be

Hagman-Stajan-Blake
Stalberg-Bozak-Hanson
Stemp-Grabovski-Kulemin
Orr-Mitchell-Rosehill/Wallin

Mayers was injured last night and has done nothing before that. Rosehill is much better. Not only does thast give youth but also some vetrans to help. that gives us 4 lines that can score and also the toughness needed

First of all, Grabovski will not be put on a 3rd line with and Bozak put ahead of him. An unproven NHL player will not be put ahead of a proven one. Bozak will be third line, grabovski will be 2nd, and stajan will be 1st.

2nd of all, Rosehill can fight, but he wont be making this years team, too young and inexperienced in fighting NHL players vs minor league players. Wallin is a test to see if he can keep up. I see him 4th line before Rosehill gets it.

3rd, Kulemin will be on the big team if he has really put on the 25lbs that everyone says he has gained. Stalberg, bozak, and hanson need to prove they can keep up with the NHL before they go 2nd line. There is a difference between preseason and the real season. They may look good now, but lets see how they do as the season goes on before we give them a 2nd line role.

My lines look more like this

Hagman-Stajan-Blake
Stempniak-Grabovski-Kulemin
Stalberg-Bozak-Hanson
Orr-Mitchell-Wallin/Mayers

Mayers and Wallin split the scratch until one proves worthy of the NHL
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I don't think Kulemin is going to the minors, we could see Mayers, Stemps, Primeau waived.
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ya, an entire 2nd line of rookies, real smart
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Everything looks hunky-dory in exhibition season but around January when these kids are sucking wind it won't be quite as pretty.
It seems people forget that the trio has never played that many games in a year and against grown men in the most competitive hockey league in the world. Ridiculous article; why stagnate the development of Tlusty/Kulemin etc, for the flavour of the month. Absoloutely no harm in making the three of them play for the Marlies, learn the pro game, and let Kulemin and others play in the NHL. Its a great situation for the Leafs to be in, and I hope they're not rushed. Injuries will give them opportunity to come up to the Leafs durring the season regardless.
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ya, an entire 2nd line of rookies, real smart
Not your prototypical 19-21 year old rookies though. These are 23 year olds who are physically ready for the NHL. I agree they will have a bit of a learning curve, but I don't think it will be anything near what you would expect with a 19-21 year old.
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Not your prototypical 19-21 year old rookies though. These are 23 year olds who are physically ready for the NHL. I agree they will have a bit of a learning curve, but I don't think it will be anything near what you would expect with a 19-21 year old.
Yes, but mentally and physically unable to handle an 82 game schedule IMO. Schenn (the most NHL ready prospect) in last years draft played well, but looked worn and not the same latter into the season. No fault to Schenn, it is what it is.
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