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09-20-2009, 12:19 PM
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Just watched Kessel press conference

Says he never asked to be traded and it just developed into something that became mutual.

Water under the bridge but somebody is lying.
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Bruins tried to work out a deal with the Kessel family friend Arnott and he wanted to play hardball.
The B's then offered Kessel to the Leafs in June prior to the draft after months of trying to work out a deal with nothing to show for it. Even after this happened, the B's were still willing to talk.

July came and family friend no longer wanted to deal with the Bruins.
So if he no longer wanted to deal with the B's...that means he was looking elsewhere as well. But family friend and Kessel are the ones who shut the door totally.
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09-20-2009, 12:49 PM
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Watched it to. he never said he wanted to be traded. o well, i still respect him as a player, and wish him great luck in Toronto.
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Bruins tried to work out a deal with the Kessel family friend Arnott and he wanted to play hardball.
The B's then offered Kessel to the Leafs in June prior to the draft after months of trying to work out a deal with nothing to show for it. Even after this happened, the B's were still willing to talk.

July came and family friend no longer wanted to deal with the Bruins.
So if he no longer wanted to deal with the B's...that means he was looking elsewhere as well. But family friend and Kessel are the ones who shut the door totally.
What would be the point of Kessel lying to the media? Do you know for a fact that he did asked to be traded? I sure don't.

Personally, I think Boston has been trying to unload him since the 2008 playoffs, perhaps even before. There was already dissension between Julian and Kessel- whatever happened back then that landed him a spot in the press box may have tainted his feelings towards wanting to stay, or maybe Julian no longer wanted him on the team. We don't have the answers, and sometimes, personality conflicts do happen between players and coaches and have no resolution. That doesn't make one or the other a jerk, just means that they clash and one, if possible, should move on elsewhere for the rest of the team's sake.
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as it all start by Kessel sitting out part of round 1 in 2008. yes it indeed may have.
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Semantics.

Kessel said he didn't want to be here and said he wouldn't negotiate a contract. Sure, there were other options, but Kessel and his agent were thinking trade all the way.

I got attacked by the Kessel Crowd for saying it at the time, but it turned out to be true: Kessel doesn't care who's writing the checks, as long as he's getting his money. Toronto was the only team willing to give him that money, so no surprise he's in Toronto.
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What would be the point of Kessel lying to the media?
So he isn't labeled as a head case like Heatley maybe? As far as I'm concerned, both sides have just as much reason to lie about it.

Kessel lies because he doesn't want to look like a locker room cancer. Teams are weary of players that asked to be traded, especially from a contender like Boston when other players like playing here. Maybe if he asked to be traded, that lowers his contract value too. Why would teams commit so much money to a player who demands to be traded with the thought that he might want to be traded again after being acquired?

Chia lies because he doesn't want to look cheap. If players don't think Chia tried to keep a young star like Kessel, they may think Chia doesn't want to win and then Boston looks like a less attractive city to play in. If players see Boston just trading away star players for no reason other than, "they don't like him," why would people want to waste their time playing for a city that doesn't do what they can to win or even worse from the player perspective, risk being traded because he isn't well liked by management?

Who's to say who's telling the truth? We have reasons to believe both of them. They both have reasons to lie. I'm personally more on Chia's side because it's at least widely believed that Chia offered Kessel Krejci-money and Kessel wouldn't take it. Kessel was known to have problems since before he was drafted and that's why he wasn't drafted as high as 1st overall.
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It's somewhere between the two. Kessel said it was mutual, he didn't say it was Boston who wanted him gone.

If Chia really isn't a liar, why did he tell the media not too long ago that kessel will be signed and be a bruin?

It's probably along the lines of "I think i'm more valueble than this and don't deserve the criticism/benching...(whatever)"..."It's this way or the highway"..."Which highway leads to Toronto?" End of story.
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What would be the point of Kessel lying to the media? Do you know for a fact that he did asked to be traded? I sure don't.

Personally, I think Boston has been trying to unload him since the 2008 playoffs, perhaps even before. There was already dissension between Julian and Kessel- whatever happened back then that landed him a spot in the press box may have tainted his feelings towards wanting to stay, or maybe Julian no longer wanted him on the team. We don't have the answers, and sometimes, personality conflicts do happen between players and coaches and have no resolution. That doesn't make one or the other a jerk, just means that they clash and one, if possible, should move on elsewhere for the rest of the team's sake.

He's trying not to look like the bad guy.
But when a guy says {and his family friend/agent Arnott} says they're no longer talking to the Bruins which is an indirect way of asking for a trade, I'd say anyways.
So my guess is he was either going to look for other teams to fire off offer sheets which rumored to happen anyways, just a matter of when or he was to become a carpenter.

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What would be the point of Kessel lying to the media? Do you know for a fact that he did asked to be traded? I sure don't.

Personally, I think Boston has been trying to unload him since the 2008 playoffs, perhaps even before. There was already dissension between Julian and Kessel- whatever happened back then that landed him a spot in the press box may have tainted his feelings towards wanting to stay, or maybe Julian no longer wanted him on the team. We don't have the answers, and sometimes, personality conflicts do happen between players and coaches and have no resolution. That doesn't make one or the other a jerk, just means that they clash and one, if possible, should move on elsewhere for the rest of the team's sake.
Kessel didn't need to request a trade to end the contract negotiations. Besides, if Kessel went public about wanting to be traded Burke wouldn't want to have anything to do with him. I'm speculating but Kessel was probably stalling Boston hoping offer sheets would come flooding in as early as July 1st. He's really quite lucky that Burke likes him so much because it was shaping up to be another "the Yankees won't even pick Manny Fernandez off waivers" kind of embarrassment. No matter how talented you may be any player can be overpaid and unwanted.
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Kessel didn't need to request a trade to end the contract negotiations. Besides, if Kessel went public about wanting to be traded Burke wouldn't want to have anything to do with him. I'm speculating but Kessel was probably stalling Boston hoping offer sheets would come flooding in as early as July 1st. He's really quite lucky that Burke likes him so much because it was shaping up to be another "the Yankees won't even pick Manny Fernandez off waivers" kind of embarrassment. No matter how talented you may be any player can be overpaid and unwanted.
Precisely. Wait for some stupid and desperate.
Knock knock knock...
Well hellooooooooooo Brian Burke.

Sidenote: Kessel gets a 8 mil signing bonus from Burke.
Sid the Kid's deal with the Pens he got a 5 mil signing bonus. Nice.

Kevin Lowe. Comments?
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Kessel didn't need to request a trade to end the contract negotiations. Besides, if Kessel went public about wanting to be traded Burke wouldn't want to have anything to do with him. I'm speculating but Kessel was probably stalling Boston hoping offer sheets would come flooding in as early as July 1st. He's really quite lucky that Burke likes him so much because it was shaping up to be another "the Yankees won't even pick Manny Fernandez off waivers" kind of embarrassment. No matter how talented you may be any player can be overpaid and unwanted.
Chris Pronger anyone?

Burke is a hypocrite, through and through. He slams Lowe for inflating second contracts and overpays with Perry and Kessel. He says he wouldn't want Heatly because he asks for a trade, yet traded for Pronger.
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Yep Kessel never asked to be traded, just like he wasn't looking for +5M a year.

Me first players can take a hike, this team doesn't need them.
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